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J.Dre
11-13-2014, 07:36 PM
What's up, everyone... This is another resource thread for anyone to post in either to receive help or give it.

http://brownelltech.com/images/Custom%20Build.jpg

Lately, I've been helping some people out in this section with computer choices. Some people saw that and have started sending me private messages. I don't mind answering PM's, but it would be better if there was a single thread where everyone may collaborate as I am not always available. I figured it would be nice to have a single thread all about computers (both desktops and laptops) for discussion related to building/upgrade advice, hardware components, new setups (monitors, etc.), Windows support or technical support, etc. So, I've created this thread to tackle those questions or concerns. :cool:

I've been building computers for a while now and I'm doing my best to keep up with the latest and greatest components for gamers. I would be willing to offer build advice to anyone interested in it. I'm not going to give you step by step instructions on how to build a computer, but I would be willing to answer any related questions. For example, if you are unsure of what you should purchase and what you should avoid purchasing, I would be more than happy to help you find the most suitable setup, as best I can. I'm not an expert. However, I am very familiar with building and maintaining both desktop computers and laptop computers for the every day consumer or gamer, and I believe I can help. ;)

What do I need from you? YOUR BUDGET! That's where we will start.

With that in mind, please feel free to post below. Even if you don't need advice, you are more than welcome to give it. This thread is open to every member. Please do not argue and start flaming in this thread. :rolleyes: Also, don't forget to include your budget in your post. I can't provide you with good suggestions for a PC build if I don't know how much you want to spend!


How to build computers starting around $1500:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFb3TNePIg

$2000 gaming computer build:
http://www.sargentlock.com/images/youtube.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMRvz_IYSgM)

Water-cooled gaming computer build:
http://www.sargentlock.com/images/youtube.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtHDqdo5pR0)

4k gaming computer:
http://www.sargentlock.com/images/youtube.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-zqQiY-OA)


Note: Some of the components in these videos are outdated and I do not recommend using some of the components!

jikoe
11-13-2014, 08:01 PM
so lets start :D

my current computer:
Intel core i3 cpu, 530 @ 2.93 Ghz 293 Ghz
4 gb ram
nvidia gforce gt 220
250 gb ssd

I've got a budget from around 500 euros~, maybe more only if it is really needed. I dont know if i should upgrade this computer or better buy a new one.

I would like to have a computer which can open as many tibia clients as possible on low framerates , like 70-100~

J.Dre
11-13-2014, 08:22 PM
jikoe,

With $600 to spend, you'll want to build a new PC. You're going to need a new case, motherboard, PSU, CPU, GPU, and more RAM.


Computer Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower [+$50] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-SPEC-01-CC-9011050-WW/dp/B00I6BJATW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415912066&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+computer+case))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz [+$215] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910354&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+4690k))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti Superclocked [+$140] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclock-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-3753-KR/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910308&sr=1-3&keywords=gtx+660))
Motherboard: Gigabyte H97 Extreme Micro ATX DDR3 1600 LGA 1150 Motherboard [+$89] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-DualBIOS-Motherboard-GA-H97M-D3H/dp/B00K7807IK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1415910230&sr=8-7&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard))
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt [+$55] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Watt-EPS%C2%A0-CX600/dp/B0092ML0OC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910623&sr=1-1&keywords=600w+power+supply))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz [+$77] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10/dp/B005T63BJM/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910391&sr=1-9&keywords=ddr3+1600+ram))

Sub-total: $626~
Taxes: Unknown
Total: Should be within your budget. :cool:

Notes: This computer will be upgradeable for years to come. It is worth the upgrade. It seems like a lot, but it will be great. Make sure your computer has a good fan setup, too. You will need to keep these new components cool and allow them to breathe. You can sell your old components to make some money back, but they're quite ancient. ;) PLEASE DO A FRESH INSTALL OF WINDOWS! I would also recommend purchasing a new SSD, as they're so cheap, but that's up to you.

jikoe
11-13-2014, 08:35 PM
jikoe,

With $600 to spend, you'll want to upgrade. You're going to need a new motherboard, PSU, CPU, GPU, and more RAM.


CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz [+$215] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910354&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+4690k))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti Superclocked [+$140] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclock-Dual-Link-Graphics-02G-P4-3753-KR/dp/B00IDG3IDO/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910308&sr=1-3&keywords=gtx+660))
Motherboard: Gigabyte H97 Extreme Micro ATX DDR3 1600 LGA 1150 Motherboard [+$89] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-DualBIOS-Motherboard-GA-H97M-D3H/dp/B00K7807IK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1415910230&sr=8-7&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard))
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt [+$55] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Watt-EPS%C2%A0-CX600/dp/B0092ML0OC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910623&sr=1-1&keywords=600w+power+supply))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz [+$77] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10/dp/B005T63BJM/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1415910391&sr=1-9&keywords=ddr3+1600+ram))

Sub-total: $576~
Taxes: Unknown
Total: Should be under $600 (your budget) :cool:

Notes: This computer will be upgradeable for years to come. It is worth the upgrade. It seems like a lot, but it will be great. Make sure your computer has a good fan setup, too. You will need to keep these new components cool and allow them to breathe. You can sell your old components to make some money back, but they're quite ancient. ;)

the fan setup that i got now is that allright or what should i buy for that?
and how many tibia clients would i be able to open with this computer? :D

J.Dre
11-13-2014, 08:37 PM
the fan setup that i got now is that allright or what should i buy for that?
and how many tibia clients would i be able to open with this computer? :D

A lot more than what you can now.

Your current CPU score: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3+530+%40+2.93GHz
The 4690k CPU score: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4690K+%40+3.50GHz

That 750Ti also has 2GB's of GDDR5 memory, which will support dozens of clients, maybe close to 100 with WindAddons. ;) You will need to also lower client settings.

jikoe
11-13-2014, 08:42 PM
A lot more than what you can now.

Your current CPU score: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3+530+%40+2.93GHz
The 4690k CPU score: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4690K+%40+3.50GHz

That 750Ti also has 2GB's of GDDR5 memory, which will support dozens of clients, maybe close to 100 with WindAddons. ;) You will need to also lower client settings.

thanks! and what about the fan setup is that okay as it is now?

edit: i've been looking for this processor for such a cheap price in my country, but here in the Netherlands this processor costs 220 euros~ already LOL

J.Dre
11-13-2014, 08:43 PM
thanks! and what about the fan setup is that okay as it is now?

I would need to see your desktop. You may have to purchase a couple more fans to create a "push-pull" setup. You want to pull cool air inside through the front & back, and push the hot air out through the top. Heat rises. ;)

EDIT: It's that much money? You should look up all of those parts and tell me how much it is.

jikoe
11-13-2014, 08:50 PM
I would need to see your desktop. You may have to purchase a couple more fans to create a "push-pull" setup. You want to pull cool air inside through the front & back, and push the hot air out through the top. Heat rises. ;)

EDIT: It's that much money? You should look up all of those parts and tell me how much it is.

well i think i can order it on amazon, it only says they cannot ship Motherboard: Gigabyte H97 Extreme Micro ATX DDR3 1600 LGA 1150 Motherboard [+$89] (Amazon) to my adres

my current computer is an dell inspiron 580 maybe you can look it up then to see if the fans are ok

J.Dre
11-13-2014, 08:56 PM
I did look it up. You won't be able to upgrade that with the components I mentioned. That case is too small and will not work well.

Computer Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower [+$50] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-SPEC-01-CC-9011050-WW/dp/B00I6BJATW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415912066&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+computer+case))

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410MG3U5-oL.jpg

Watch the videos above first. They will literally guide you through the entire process.

jikoe
11-13-2014, 09:32 PM
I did look it up. You won't be able to upgrade that with the components I mentioned. That case is too small and will not work well.

Computer Case: Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower [+$50] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Series-SPEC-01-CC-9011050-WW/dp/B00I6BJATW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415912066&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+computer+case))

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410MG3U5-oL.jpg

Watch the videos above first. They will literally guide you through the entire process.

checked it for dutch prices:
Corsair Vengeance artnr. 361602 : € 81,99
Corsair Builder Series CX600 Bronzeartnr. 555978 : € 64,90
Gigabyte H97-Gaming 3 artnr. 730897 : € 104,89
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 FTW w/ ACX Cooling artnr. 741336 :€ 139,46
Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Red LED artnr. 678985 : € 47,99
Intel Core i5 4690K / 3.5 Ghz artnr. 707630 : € 224,90


Total: €664,14

J.Dre
11-13-2014, 09:36 PM
checked it for dutch prices:
Corsair Vengeance artnr. 361602 : € 81,99
Corsair Builder Series CX600 Bronzeartnr. 555978 : € 64,90
Gigabyte H97-Gaming 3 artnr. 730897 : € 104,89
EVGA GeForce GTX 750 FTW w/ ACX Cooling artnr. 741336 :€ 139,46
Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Red LED artnr. 678985 : € 47,99
Intel Core i5 4690K / 3.5 Ghz artnr. 707630 : € 224,90


Total: €664,14

Seems to be a bit more expensive in your area. That sucks... Can you save up more money? It will be well worth it.

Also, make sure you check 750Ti, not 750.

jikoe
11-13-2014, 09:49 PM
Seems to be a bit more expensive in your area. That sucks... Can you save up more money? It will be well worth it.

Also, make sure you check 750Ti, not 750.

EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti Superclocked € 135,50
Intel Core i5-4690K € 220,49
Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 € 45,50
Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H moederbord € 93,00
Corsair CMPSU-600CXV2EU power supply unit € 59,50
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz SODIMM € 77,00

Eindtotaal (incl. BTW) € 630,99

found a little cheaper company now :D maybe will try this



really thanks for your help <3

J.Dre
11-13-2014, 10:06 PM
jikoe,

Happy to help. If you do get all of those parts, post back after you've built it. You may need some new fans, too.

Your current Graphics: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+220
The 750Ti Graphics: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+750+Ti

I'm betting you will be surprised about the performance. :D

Byrd
11-13-2014, 10:32 PM
CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($90.64 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($235.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)

Total: $805.26

I was thinking of going with this build, what do you think? Any thing you'd change? If so, why?

jikoe
11-13-2014, 10:48 PM
jikoe,

Happy to help. If you do get all of those parts, post back after you've built it. You may need some new fans, too.

Your current Graphics: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+220
The 750Ti Graphics: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+750+Ti

I'm betting you will be surprised about the performance. :D

yea i will :D, how do i know if i need new fans?

J.Dre
11-13-2014, 10:56 PM
yea i will :D, how do i know if i need new fans?

The new case may not come with a lot of fans. Buy the new case first, see if it comes with fans.

Byrd: What's your maximum budget? It looks like a pretty good build.

Fleet
11-13-2014, 11:10 PM
Max budget: ~1400 USD.

Requirements;
Needs to be able to handle multiple clients, and also be able to play other games while running bots (such as wow etc).

J.Dre
11-14-2014, 12:19 AM
Max budget: ~1400 USD.

Requirements;
Needs to be able to handle multiple clients, and also be able to play other games while running bots (such as wow etc).


CPU: Intel Core i7-5820k [+$375] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-5820K-Haswell-E-Processor-BX80648I75820K/dp/B00MMLXIKY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412900669&sr=8-1&keywords=5820k))
GPU: EVGA EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 [+$390] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Superclocked-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415923911&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: Gigabyte Intel LGA 2011-3 Gaming Wi-Fi Intel/Killer LAN ATX Motherboard [+$345] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-Motherboards-GA-X99-GAMING-WIFI/dp/B00MPIDZCK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412900949&sr=1-1&keywords=g1+motherboard))
PSU: Corsair RM Series 750W ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Gold (Fully Modular) [+$120] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Power-Supply/dp/B00EB7UITQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412901011&sr=1-3&keywords=corsair+750m))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR3 2400MHz [+$183] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412901059&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+2400mhz))
Optional: Storage (Primary): 256GB Samsung 850 PRO [+$185] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Internal-Version-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LF10KNA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412901161&sr=1-1&keywords=256gb+samsung+850+pro))

Sub-total: $1413 (without SSD).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $1413~ (This is the best system you can get within your budget.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbr4j7MT5ec

Build Notes: This will be able to play ANY game on the highest settings @ 1080p for at least 2 years. If you need to go down in price a bit, I would not sacrifice any of the components except RAM. 8GB of 1600MHz would suffice and will cost much less. The optional SSD is a great option for speed. It will make your PC lightning quick when loading anything. The 5820k will allow you to multitask like a king. You will be able to do EVERYTHING you want with that 6-core CPU.

Byrd
11-14-2014, 01:00 AM
Max budget ~900 preferably below 900. Don't know amd too well so I prefer Intel. But whatever you think is best build for many tibia clients and other shit

J.Dre
11-14-2014, 01:49 AM
Max budget ~900 preferably below 900. Don't know amd too well so I prefer Intel. But whatever you think is best build for many tibia clients and other shit

I'd make a few changes to your build:


CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K [+$215] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415929472&sr=8-1&keywords=i5+4690k))
Motherboard: ASUS Z97-A ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$152] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Z97-A-DDR3-2600-Motherboards/dp/B00K2MAU5Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1415929356&sr=8-3&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard))
PSU: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze [+$90] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V/dp/B00ALK3KEM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415929511&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+700w))
Optional: PSU: Corsair RM Series 750W ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Gold (Fully Modular) [+$120] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Power-Supply/dp/B00EB7UITQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412901011&sr=1-3&keywords=corsair+750m))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Blue 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz [+$99] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Series-Desktop-CMY8GX3M2A1866C9B/dp/B00D2LGT5E/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1415929560&sr=8-8&keywords=corsair+vengeance+2400mhz))

Sub-total: $922~ with your other components.
Taxes: Unknown

Build Notes: The 4690k is an unlocked CPU that will allow you to overclock. That AMD GPU will chomp up wattage, but does give you the best performance for your money at that price, which is why I chose a larger PSU. The 1866MHz memory is only $9 more, and it has a higher frequency, which will only help. The motherboard I chose is a very "future-proof" component. It is of the latest and greatest of LGA 1150 motherboards. You never want to go 'cheap' on the motherboard. The optional PSU I listed above is a much more efficient PSU overall, but it is more money. That's up for you to decide.

Byrd
11-14-2014, 01:55 AM
J.Dre would you change any other parts? In your opinion what would you have?

J.Dre
11-14-2014, 02:00 AM
J.Dre would you change any other parts? In your opinion what would you have?

I added an optional PSU. It's a very efficient version, but it's about $30 more. I'd personally add an SSD because that HDD will hold you back.

That build is pretty good. I do not suggest AMD cards because they are hot and consume a lot of power compared to NVIDIA GPU's. And they also have a history of horrible driver support. However, there is no good replacement GPU (currently) that offers the same performance for that price. The closest card is probably the GTX 770, but it's almost $100 more. At that point, you would be better off just going with a GTX 970 for $200 more because it will add nearly 50% to the performance of the R9 270x.

My personal suggestion: Save up another $350~: add an SSD (Samsung 840 EVO or 850 PRO), purchase the "optional" PSU I mentioned, and grab a GTX 970. You will literally have a gaming PC that will last you for years at that point. The GTX 970 performs better than the GTX 780, and costs less.

Byrd
11-14-2014, 04:08 AM
Case 1 x Raidmax Cobra Gaming Case - Titanium
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i5-4690K Processor (4x 3.50GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core™ i5-4690K
Processor Cooling 1 x Asetek 510LC Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1150] - Standard 120mm Fan
Memory 1 x 8 GB [4 GB x2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module [B85] - Corsair Vengeance
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti - 2GB -- FREE Upgrade to NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB
Motherboard 1 x Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 -- 2x PCIe x16, 4x SATA 6Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0
Power Supply 1 x 500 Watt - Corsair CX500 V2 - 80 PLUS Bronze - *Free Upgrade to 600W Corsair CX600 V2 - 80 PLUS Bronze* (Save $20)
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE + [FREE] 120GB Kingston V300 SSD
Total $806

What do you think of this one? J.Dre

J.Dre
11-14-2014, 12:48 PM
Case 1 x Raidmax Cobra Gaming Case - Titanium
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i5-4690K Processor (4x 3.50GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core™ i5-4690K
Processor Cooling 1 x Asetek 510LC Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1150] - Standard 120mm Fan
Memory 1 x 8 GB [4 GB x2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module [B85] - Corsair Vengeance
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti - 2GB -- FREE Upgrade to NVIDIA GTX 760 2GB
Motherboard 1 x Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 -- 2x PCIe x16, 4x SATA 6Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0
Power Supply 1 x 500 Watt - Corsair CX500 V2 - 80 PLUS Bronze - *Free Upgrade to 600W Corsair CX600 V2 - 80 PLUS Bronze* (Save $20)
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE + [FREE] 120GB Kingston V300 SSD
Total $806

What do you think of this one? J.Dre

The original build plus my changes on the previous page will perform better.

Fleet
11-14-2014, 02:55 PM
CPU: Intel Core i7-5820k [+$375] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-5820K-Haswell-E-Processor-BX80648I75820K/dp/B00MMLXIKY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1412900669&sr=8-1&keywords=5820k))
GPU: EVGA EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 [+$390] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Superclocked-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1415923911&sr=8-2&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: Gigabyte Intel LGA 2011-3 Gaming Wi-Fi Intel/Killer LAN ATX Motherboard [+$345] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-Motherboards-GA-X99-GAMING-WIFI/dp/B00MPIDZCK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412900949&sr=1-1&keywords=g1+motherboard))
PSU: Corsair RM Series 750W ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Gold (Fully Modular) [+$120] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Power-Supply/dp/B00EB7UITQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412901011&sr=1-3&keywords=corsair+750m))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR3 2400MHz [+$183] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412901059&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+2400mhz))
Optional: Storage (Primary): 256GB Samsung 850 PRO [+$185] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Internal-Version-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LF10KNA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1412901161&sr=1-1&keywords=256gb+samsung+850+pro))

Sub-total: $1413 (without SSD).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $1413~ (This is the best system you can get within your budget.)


Build Notes: This will be able to play ANY game on the highest settings @ 1080p for at least 2 years. If you need to go down in price a bit, I would not sacrifice any of the components except RAM. 8GB of 1600MHz would suffice and will cost much less. The optional SSD is a great option for speed. It will make your PC lightning quick when loading anything. The 5820k will allow you to multitask like a king. You will be able to do EVERYTHING you want with that 8-core CPU.


Thanks for taking your time buddy.
Does amazon work for orders to Sweden aswell? Never used Amazon for this kind of purchase before. When choosing the same parts from a swedish site the total was around $1850 (with the SSD), seems like I can make a bargain buying them off Amazon instead.

Now it's just the matter of convincing my girlfriend to actually get a desktop to the appartment, lol.

EDIT: Link to the shoppinglist from the swedish site: http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/7355276/2014-11-14

J.Dre
11-14-2014, 03:32 PM
Fleet:

You can choose a different motherboard or CPU if you want to cut costs. I chose the Gigabyte G1 because it has a very good reputation and built in WIFI, Bluetooth, etc. And I chose the 5820k because you want to do a lot of multitasking. However, the i7-4790k will do well with that also. The 4790k is LGA 1150.

If you get a different CPU, you need to make sure the motherboard supports the same socket type (i.e. 1150, 2011-3, etc.).

J.Dre
11-20-2014, 03:07 PM
Fleet,

So, what did you end up choosing?

HonkaPonka
11-21-2014, 10:05 AM
I'm looking to get a new desktop, I live in Denmark. But my budget is around 400-450 euros? I guess, it would be great if you could find me a setup :)

Fleet
11-21-2014, 01:44 PM
Fleet,

So, what did you end up choosing?

Haven't ordered anything yet. Might wait it out and order it during the christmas sales. :)

J.Dre
11-21-2014, 08:42 PM
I'm looking to get a new desktop, I live in Denmark. But my budget is around 400-450 euros? I guess, it would be great if you could find me a setup :)

That's a very tight budget you have. The specs I list below are a bit more money. I could not build a good gaming computer within your budget.


Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 350D Performance Micro ATX Computer Case [+$100] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Performance-Computer-CC-9011029-WW/dp/B00BWLL9MY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601807&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+350d))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690k at 3.5GHz [+$210] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602672&sr=8-1&keywords=i5+4690k))
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 750Ti GDDR5 2GB [+$140] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics-GTX750TI-OC-2GD5/dp/B00IB9P1KG/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601299&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+750ti+4gb))
Motherboard: ASUS Micro ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Z97M-PLUS [+$127] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Micro-DDR3-Motherboards-Z97M-PLUS/dp/B00K2R6EGA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601752&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+micro+atx))
PSU: EVGA 500W 80PLUS Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply [+$35] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602053&sr=8-1&keywords=500w+psu))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz [+$76] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601493&sr=1-7&keywords=8gb+2+4gb+1600mhz+240+pin))
Optical Drive: Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial-ATA Internal OEM ODD [+$22] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Serial-ATA-Internal-Optical-DRW-24B1ST/dp/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601555&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+dvd+24x))
Hard Drive (Primary): WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA III [+$50] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Cache-Desktop/dp/B00461G3MS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602249&sr=8-1&keywords=500gb+hdd))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" SATA III [+$85] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-120GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7TE120BW/dp/B00E3W15P0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602343&sr=8-2&keywords=120gb+ssd))

Sub-total: $760 (without SSD).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $760~

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. You need to save up some more money to afford these specifications. It will be worth while doing so. Whatever you do, do not sacrifice the motherboard. You may be able to find a cheaper CPU.

HonkaPonka
12-01-2014, 12:31 PM
That's a very tight budget you have. The specs I list below are a bit more money. I could not build a good gaming computer within your budget.


Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 350D Performance Micro ATX Computer Case [+$100] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Performance-Computer-CC-9011029-WW/dp/B00BWLL9MY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601807&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+350d))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690k at 3.5GHz [+$210] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602672&sr=8-1&keywords=i5+4690k))
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 750Ti GDDR5 2GB [+$140] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-750Ti-GDDR5-Graphics-GTX750TI-OC-2GD5/dp/B00IB9P1KG/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601299&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+750ti+4gb))
Motherboard: ASUS Micro ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Z97M-PLUS [+$127] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Micro-DDR3-Motherboards-Z97M-PLUS/dp/B00K2R6EGA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601752&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+micro+atx))
PSU: EVGA 500W 80PLUS Certified ATX12V/EPS12V Power Supply [+$35] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602053&sr=8-1&keywords=500w+psu))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz [+$76] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601493&sr=1-7&keywords=8gb+2+4gb+1600mhz+240+pin))
Optical Drive: Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial-ATA Internal OEM ODD [+$22] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Serial-ATA-Internal-Optical-DRW-24B1ST/dp/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416601555&sr=1-1&keywords=asus+dvd+24x))
Hard Drive (Primary): WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA III [+$50] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Cache-Desktop/dp/B00461G3MS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602249&sr=8-1&keywords=500gb+hdd))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" SATA III [+$85] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-120GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7TE120BW/dp/B00E3W15P0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416602343&sr=8-2&keywords=120gb+ssd))

Sub-total: $760 (without SSD).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $760~

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. You need to save up some more money to afford these specifications. It will be worth while doing so. Whatever you do, do not sacrifice the motherboard. You may be able to find a cheaper CPU.

Thank you very much, yeah I realised that after like my dad always says never buy the cheapest go mid range haha. That's a fact usually for everything.

J.Dre
12-05-2014, 07:50 PM
Thank you very much, yeah I realised that after like my dad always says never buy the cheapest go mid range haha. That's a fact usually for everything.

Hopefully it at least gives you an idea of what to buy. You can't always just go on Amazon or eBay and buy random parts and expect them to work. That is one mistake I see a lot of people make (new to building). For example, I've known people whom have purchased the wrong type of motherboard for their CPU. Also, people who have bought overkill GPU's with a very weak CPU because they think the CPU is not as important, ultimately resulting in bottleneck on a lot of games.

Building them isn't as easy as most think. It's definitely cost-effective, and a great way to have the best performance for your money. ;)

Gordo
12-05-2014, 09:13 PM
Just build mine, should be shipping thought out this week, had 1.2~ bugget (ended up like 1.5k thanks to peripherals)

ill post a picture of all the goodies when i get them.

J.Dre
12-09-2014, 05:52 PM
Gordo,

What specs did you end up getting?

svennn
12-10-2014, 11:24 PM
Gordo,

What specs did you end up getting?

Current Setup: Laptop.

CPU: Intel Core i5-2430M 2.40GHz
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GT 780M
RAM: 6GB likely 1300mhz
Storage: 2x250GB HDD 7200RPM

Budget 1700 USD. Probably won't buy a new PC for a while (unless I manage to get a job), but i'd still like to know what you recommend for this budget :P

MUST BE
Intel, Nvidia, SSD.

Note that prices are a lot higher in Sweden.

J.Dre
12-11-2014, 12:25 AM
Budget 1700 USD. Probably won't buy a new PC for a while (unless I manage to get a job), but i'd still like to know what you recommend for this budget :P

MUST BE
Intel, Nvidia, SSD.

Note that prices are a lot higher in Sweden.

I'll try to stay around $1500. That should leave some wiggle room for Sweden's inflated prices. :D



Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Full-Tower Case [+$135] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Series-Performance-CC-9011035-WW/dp/B00EB6O4N8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418256831&sr=8-1&keywords=750d+computer+case))
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k (8MB Cache, up to 4.4 GHz) [+$331] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418256868&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+core+i7+4790k))
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked 4GB GDDR5 [+$340] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Overclocked-Graphics-GV-N970WF3OC-4GD/dp/B00NH5T1UA/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418256944&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: Gigabyte Black Edition LGA 1150 Intel Z97 [+$190] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Black-Edition-Motherboards-GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK/dp/B00KYCSCVS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257050&sr=8-5&keywords=lga+1150+gigabyte))
PSU: Corsair RM Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified [+$108] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Supply/dp/B00EB7UITQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257095&sr=8-3&keywords=corsair+750w))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 DRAM 2400MHz [+$95] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Series-2400MHz-CMY8GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00FMRV7OY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257203&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+2400mhz))
Optical Drive: Asus Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Asus-DVD-ROM-Internal-Blu-Ray-BC-12B1ST/dp/B004SUO068/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257260&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+blu-ray))
SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 PRO 256GB 2.5" SATA III [+$175] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-256GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LF10KNA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257316&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+850+pro))

Sub-total: $1444 (with the SSD you wanted).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $1444~ plus taxes.

Notes: This is a great setup. You'll be able to max out every game for a good while. It will also run like 100 Tibia clients, if you want.

Gordo
12-11-2014, 12:50 AM
Gordo,

What specs did you end up getting?

Posting a pic in a few, after i unpack everything

edit:

http://i.imgur.com/rwk70kf.jpg
J.Dre you can pretty much see everything there, just not the drives

A seagate 2tb hard drive and a regular Asus disk drive (in the bubble warp)

Also a 32G usb to upload Windows 7, 64 bit and the monitor is a Asus 1080p LCD

J.Dre
12-11-2014, 01:20 AM
Gordo,

Did you open up everything? Look at the list of components I made for Svennn (above). You may want to exchange the GPU for a 970.

Gordo
12-11-2014, 01:27 AM
Gordo,

Did you open up everything? Look at the list of components I made for Svennn (above). You may want to exchange the GPU for a 970.

please do elaborate

J.Dre
12-11-2014, 01:45 AM
please do elaborate

Just watch reviews: The 970 is about 20% faster than the 770, and much more efficient. It also beats the GTX 780 in most games and almost all synthetic benchmarks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGo7lpQ2yPY

svennn
12-11-2014, 12:30 PM
I'll try to stay around $1500. That should leave some wiggle room for Sweden's inflated prices. :D



Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Full-Tower Case [+$135] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Series-Performance-CC-9011035-WW/dp/B00EB6O4N8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418256831&sr=8-1&keywords=750d+computer+case))
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k (8MB Cache, up to 4.4 GHz) [+$331] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418256868&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+core+i7+4790k))
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked 4GB GDDR5 [+$340] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Overclocked-Graphics-GV-N970WF3OC-4GD/dp/B00NH5T1UA/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1418256944&sr=1-5&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: Gigabyte Black Edition LGA 1150 Intel Z97 [+$190] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Black-Edition-Motherboards-GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK/dp/B00KYCSCVS/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257050&sr=8-5&keywords=lga+1150+gigabyte))
PSU: Corsair RM Series 750 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified [+$108] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Supply/dp/B00EB7UITQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257095&sr=8-3&keywords=corsair+750w))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 DRAM 2400MHz [+$95] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Series-2400MHz-CMY8GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00FMRV7OY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257203&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+2400mhz))
Optical Drive: Asus Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Asus-DVD-ROM-Internal-Blu-Ray-BC-12B1ST/dp/B004SUO068/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257260&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+blu-ray))
SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 PRO 256GB 2.5" SATA III [+$175] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-256GB-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-7KE256BW/dp/B00LF10KNA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418257316&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+850+pro))

Sub-total: $1444 (with the SSD you wanted).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $1444~ plus taxes.

Notes: This is a great setup. You'll be able to max out every game for a good while. It will also run like 100 Tibia clients, if you want.

Edited some to suit my needs. (http://i.imgur.com/zciKWun.png) This shit is expensive :confused:

J.Dre
12-11-2014, 02:25 PM
Edited some to suit my needs. (http://i.imgur.com/zciKWun.png) This shit is expensive :confused:

Why is it so much money? I don't think those are the same components, lol.

EDIT: I'll help you out later. Kind of busy this week... You can look at previous posts to find other components I've recommended. ;)

iMike
12-12-2014, 03:58 AM
What are your thoughts about ASUS? Idk if I need an upgrade or not that much.
This is what I'm using atm, enough for CS:GO and Arma 3 with nice FPS?
http://laptops-and-notebooks.findthebest.com/l/226/N53SV

J.Dre
12-12-2014, 01:22 PM
What are your thoughts about ASUS? Idk if I need an upgrade or not that much.

This is what I'm using atm, enough for CS:GO and Arma 3 with nice FPS? http://laptops-and-notebooks.findthebest.com/l/226/N53SV

Hmm, probably not. You'd have to lower settings quite a bit for a decent FPS. The 540M and 2630QM are quite old.

What's your budget for a new laptop, assuming you wanted to purchase one?

iMike
12-12-2014, 02:07 PM
Hmm, probably not. You'd have to lower settings quite a bit for a decent FPS. The 540M and 2630QM are quite old.

What's your budget for a new laptop, assuming you wanted to purchase one?
1,300 USD, not more not less, suggestions?

J.Dre
12-12-2014, 02:15 PM
1,300 USD, not more not less, suggestions?

With that budget, I'd recommend building a desktop. You'll get almost twice the performance from a desktop than any laptop can offer.

But, if you must have a laptop, this is a 15" beast: http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8651-clevo-p650se-p-7690.html


15.6" FHD Matte (1080p)
NVIDIA® GTX 970M [3GB]
Intel® i7-4710HQ
Up to 32GB RAM
1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive (Upgradeable)
2-3 Hours / 6.83 lbs

Notes: This laptop will last you a long time. You'll be able to max out every game, too. The 970M performs better than a desktop GTX 680.

J.Dre
12-12-2014, 02:22 PM
Edited some to suit my needs. (http://i.imgur.com/zciKWun.png) This shit is expensive :confused:

You can go with an AMD CPU and a different motherboard. That should cut costs by about $200. You may also want to check out the i5-4690k.

You'll have to mess around with the specs until it meets your budget. Too bad you're not in the States, that would be a sweet build.

svennn
12-12-2014, 02:36 PM
You can go with an AMD CPU and a different motherboard. That should cut costs by about $200. You may also want to check out the i5-4690k.

You'll have to mess around with the specs until it meets your budget. Too bad you're not in the States, that would be a sweet build.

Yeah... Sucks that everything is so expensive in Sweden. Can't really import either cuz taxes would make it cost the same amount anyway... Might still get that setup even though it's a bit over my budget though. I'll just have to save ;)

svennn
12-12-2014, 07:55 PM
You can go with an AMD CPU and a different motherboard. That should cut costs by about $200. You may also want to check out the i5-4690k.

You'll have to mess around with the specs until it meets your budget. Too bad you're not in the States, that would be a sweet build.

Found this for 13 337 SEK. Cheaper than what I found when reworking what you told me to buy. I have no idea how it can be cheaper when a lot of the parts are better? XD

1 stk Fractal Design Define R5 Black Pearl
1 stk Cooler Master G750M, 80plus Bronze, 750W Modular PSU
1 stk Intel® LGA1150 Core i7-4790K
1 stk ASUS LGA1150 Z97-AR
1 stk HyperX Fury DDR3 1866MHz 16GB KIT Black
1 stk Gainward GeForce GTX980 4GB GDDR5 PCI-E
1 stk Crucial MX100 SSD 256GB 2,5" 7mm
1 stk ASUS DVD-Writer DRW-24F1ST/BLK/G/AS, SATA

J.Dre
12-12-2014, 09:18 PM
The only thing that's better is the GPU. The brands I chose have a great reputation. Crucial SSD's vs Samsung SSD's, for example, are hugely different in speed and reliability.
The PSU you chose is only Bronze certified in efficiency vs. the Gold certification of the other. And so on... The components you chose are cheaper in both price and quality.

J.Dre
12-14-2014, 02:23 PM
iMike,

I never heard back from you after I made that suggestion (here (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=390510&viewfull=1#post390510)). Any news?

iMike
12-14-2014, 07:21 PM
@iMike (http://forums.xenobot.net/member.php?u=1129),

I never heard back from you after I made that suggestion (here (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=390510&viewfull=1#post390510)). Any news?
Gonna save a bit more for a Macbook Pro Retina Display I guess, enough for CS:GO I guess and I like it :P

J.Dre
12-14-2014, 07:40 PM
Gonna save a bit more for a Macbook Pro Retina Display I guess, enough for CS:GO I guess and I like it :P

That's a huge step in the other direction, lol. You can get a QHD screen on the laptop I suggested.

Did you see my comment about the 970M?

nichjeremy
01-07-2015, 07:16 AM
Hey j.dre ive been looking up computers on cyberpowerpc.com and they pre build the computers. I dont know how to put one together myself so its kind of pricey

Im looking to spend around 1500 usd. Or be able to run 20 to 30 clients and still play music and do whatever else. Ive looked at intel i5 and different things. But what are the main things i want. Ram, cpu, graphics and such.

this is the load ive put together on the site


CARE1: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
CAS: * Cooler Master HAF XB w/ USB 3.0, HDD Hot Swap & X-Dock, Removable Motherboard Tray [-38]
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: LG 12X Internal Blu-ray Drive & DVDRW, 3D Playback Combo Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4690 3.50 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 [-126]
CS_FAN: Maximum Enermax Twister Pressure 120MM PWM Cooling Fans (Maximum Performance Operation) [+29] (500-1,800 RPM High Static Pressure PWM Case Fan w/ Adjustable Peak Speed Function (FA-204-207))
DOCKINGSTATION: None
ENGRAVING: None
FA_HDD: None
FAN: V3 Voltair High Performance Thermoelectric CPU Cooler with TEC Technology [+17]
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU: LG 14X Internal Blu-ray Burner, BD-RE, 3D Playback DVD+RW Combo Drive (Black Color)
FREEBIE_MB: GIGABYTE GC-WB867D-I 802.11AC Wi-Fi up to 867 Mbps + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo w/ Dual Antenna PCI-E Adapter
FREEBIE_TB: None
FREEBIE_VC1: NVIDIA FREE TO PLAY COUPON (Strife, WAR Thunder, and Infinite X Crisis) [+0]
GLASSES: None
HDD: 256GB ADATA SP610 SSD + 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [+21] (Combo Drive)
HDD2: None
HEADSET: ZALMAN ZM-HPS200 GAMING HEADSET
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: AZZA Delta Gaming Keyboard w/ Anti-Ghosting & red backlight
MB_SRT: None [-53]
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (ADATA XPG V3)
MONITOR: None
MOPAD: None
MOTHERBOARD: * GIGABYTE Z97-D3H ATX w/ Realtek GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 3 PCI, 6x SATA 6Gb/s (Pro OC Certified)
MOUSE: AZZA Alpha 1600 DPI Gaming Mouse
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NFC: None
NOISEREDUCE1: Power Supply Gasket [+5]
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition) + Office 365 FREE 30 Days Trial
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [-44]
RUSH: Standard Process Time: Ship within 10 to 15 Business Day
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR [3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts] LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOFT1: McAfee AntiVirus Plus 2014 [+0]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
TVRC: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: EVGA FTW Edition NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card [-441] (Single Card)
WNC: None
_PRICE: (+1234)

J.Dre
01-07-2015, 03:12 PM
nichjeremy,

You have to remember that CyberPowerPC is charging you for labor (and slight profit on components). You will be able to have a much better desktop if you were to build one yourself. The main post of this thread has videos which are very detailed and gives even the biggest newbies the ability to build their own desktop computer. It's really much easier than it sounds. :cool:

That configuration is trash. Don't buy it. I'll make one for you. :)



Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series Black 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Computer Case [+$120] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Mid-Tower-Computer-CC-9011049-WW/dp/B00I6BJ8MQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1420642965&sr=8-3&keywords=corsair+650d))
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K (8MB Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) [+$335] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420643021&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+core+i7+4790k))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 [+$340] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Superclocked-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643133&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VII HERO Z97 ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$210] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-MAXIMUS-VII-HERO-Motherboards/dp/B00K2MASE4/ref=pd_sim_pc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0PXVCD038TYB607TZ0H0))
PSU: Cooler Master V650 - Compact 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular PSU [+$100] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-V650-Compact-Modular/dp/B00I9NZ2QM/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643204&sr=1-4&keywords=650w+psu))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 DRAM 2400MHz [+$95] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Memory-CMY8GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00FMRV7OY/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643244&sr=1-12&keywords=corsair+vengeance))
Optical Drive: LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM Blu-ray Optical Drive [+$46] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/LG-Internal-UH12NS30-Blu-ray-Optical/dp/B00DVTBM2W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643318&sr=1-1&keywords=blu+ray+optical))
Hard Drive (Primary): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$75] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Cache-Desktop-WD1003FZEX/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643417&sr=1-3&keywords=wd+1tb+caviar+black))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$133] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643351&sr=1-4&keywords=samsung+850+pro))

Sub-total: $1321 (without SSD).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $1454 (with SSD)

Notes: This build is LEAPS better than the one you provided. I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. You will need to purchase a water cooler for the CPU (for optimal performance). Everything else should be fine. Please watch the video on the main page! The GTX 970 is approximately 53% faster than the 750Ti you wanted!*

*The GTX 750Ti averages about 50 FPS on Battlefield 4 with maximum settings. The GTX 970 averages about 75 FPS on Battlefield 4 with maximum settings.

nichjeremy
01-07-2015, 07:59 PM
well im happy i know you then. i thought that was a hook up too lol.
even if i have trouble putting it together i know theirs a shop over here that can do it for cheap if i cant figure out a part.

nichjeremy
01-07-2015, 08:15 PM
CAS: * Cooler Master HAF XB w/ USB 3.0, HDD Hot Swap & X-Dock, Removable Motherboard Tray [-38]
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4790K 4.0 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Maximum Enermax Twister Pressure 120MM PWM Cooling Fans (Maximum Performance Operation) [+29] (500-1,800 RPM High Static Pressure PWM Case Fan w/ Adjustable Peak Speed Function (FA-204-207))
FAN: Asetek 510LC 120mm Liquid Cooling CPU Cooler - Enhance Cooling Performance [-24] (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
HDD: 128GB Apotop SSD + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo [-20] (Combo Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance [+43])
MOTHERBOARD: * GIGABYTE Z97-D3H ATX w/ Realtek GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 3 PCI, 6x SATA 6Gb/s (Pro OC Certified)
OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [-44]
VIDEO: EVGA FTW Edition NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card [-278] (Single Card)

this build is similar for 1543 USD.
im worried i will honestly mess up the build if i do it myself.
is this more similar to what u recommended < if im wrong i will plead no more and order those amazon parts tomorrow

J.Dre
01-07-2015, 08:58 PM
Why would you pay more for worse components? Purchase the components in my list above and you'll be happy.

The video in the main post is literally a step-by-step guide.

4muki4
01-07-2015, 09:00 PM
nichjeremy,

You have to remember that CyberPowerPC is charging you for labor (and slight profit on components). You will be able to have a much better desktop if you were to build one yourself. The main post of this thread has videos which are very detailed and gives even the biggest newbies the ability to build their own desktop computer. It's really much easier than it sounds. :cool:

That configuration is trash. Don't buy it. I'll make one for you. :)



Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series Black 450D High Airflow Mid-Tower Computer Case [+$120] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Mid-Tower-Computer-CC-9011049-WW/dp/B00I6BJ8MQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1420642965&sr=8-3&keywords=corsair+650d))
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K (8MB Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) [+$335] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420643021&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+core+i7+4790k))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 [+$340] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Superclocked-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643133&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VII HERO Z97 ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$210] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-MAXIMUS-VII-HERO-Motherboards/dp/B00K2MASE4/ref=pd_sim_pc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0PXVCD038TYB607TZ0H0))
PSU: Cooler Master V650 - Compact 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular PSU [+$100] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-V650-Compact-Modular/dp/B00I9NZ2QM/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643204&sr=1-4&keywords=650w+psu))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 DRAM 2400MHz [+$95] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Memory-CMY8GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00FMRV7OY/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643244&sr=1-12&keywords=corsair+vengeance))
Optical Drive: LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM Blu-ray Optical Drive [+$46] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/LG-Internal-UH12NS30-Blu-ray-Optical/dp/B00DVTBM2W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643318&sr=1-1&keywords=blu+ray+optical))
Hard Drive (Primary): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$75] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Cache-Desktop-WD1003FZEX/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643417&sr=1-3&keywords=wd+1tb+caviar+black))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$133] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643351&sr=1-4&keywords=samsung+850+pro))

Sub-total: $1321 (without SSD).
Taxes: Unknown
Total: $1454 (with SSD)

Notes: This build is LEAPS better than the one you provided. I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. You will need to purchase a water cooler for the CPU (for optimal performance). Everything else should be fine. Please watch the video on the main page! The GTX 970 is approximately 53% faster than the 750Ti you wanted!*

*The GTX 750Ti averages about 50 FPS on Battlefield 4 with maximum settings. The GTX 970 averages about 75 FPS on Battlefield 4 with maximum settings.

Great build J.Dre wouldn't change anything expect if i find something similar in sale. nichjeremy have you ever played with legos? building a pc is same thing

nichjeremy
01-07-2015, 09:11 PM
im sure i could do it. im only trying to run 20 clients max so honestly am i over doing it in my build?

nichjeremy
01-07-2015, 09:25 PM
Why would you pay more for worse components? Purchase the components in my list above and you'll be happy.

The video in the main post is literally a step-by-step guide.

Thanks j.dre i will get on ordering these parts soon.
ill let u know how my little project goes

J.Dre
01-07-2015, 09:34 PM
Thanks j.dre i will get on ordering these parts soon.
ill let u know how my little project goes

I recommend you watch the video at least two times to make sure you understand everything. If you're still uncomfortable with it, then I suppose buying from CyberPowerPC is the next best thing. I don't mind helping you pick one out on CyberPowerPC.com, but it will be a bit worse than your own build.

dnalyks
01-07-2015, 09:34 PM
Hey J.Dre

I have my laptop and for some reason it gets over heated quite easily when I run 10 clients~

Any advice on what I can change to improve it a little so it doesn't heat up so quick?

J.Dre
01-07-2015, 09:37 PM
Hey J.Dre

I have my laptop and for some reason it gets over heated quite easily when I run 10 clients~

Any advice on what I can change to improve it a little so it doesn't heat up so quick?

Depends on the laptop you have. What type/brand is it?

It likely just needs to be cleaned and re-pasted. I recommend IC Diamond Thermal Compound (http://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Cooling-Diamond-Thermal-Compound/dp/B0042IEVD8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420666605&sr=8-1&keywords=ic+diamond). It's the most reliable I've used.

dnalyks
01-07-2015, 09:51 PM
Depends on the laptop you have. What type/brand is it?

It likely just needs to be cleaned and re-pasted. I recommend IC Diamond Thermal Compound (http://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Cooling-Diamond-Thermal-Compound/dp/B0042IEVD8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420666605&sr=8-1&keywords=ic+diamond). It's the most reliable I've used.

I guess for a laptop its decent but I have no clue about pcs lool

http://i.imgur.com/pWgDEEC.png

J.Dre
01-07-2015, 10:43 PM
I guess for a laptop its decent but I have no clue about pcs lool

http://i.imgur.com/pWgDEEC.png

Looks like you have a decent CPU. It should definitely be able to handle Tibia clients, at least 20.

Install this (http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/1.26-setup.exe) monitoring software and tell me what your CPU temperature is. I'm fairly certain it just needs some new thermal paste.

dnalyks
01-07-2015, 11:18 PM
Looks like you have a decent CPU. It should definitely be able to handle Tibia clients, at least 20.

Install this (http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/1.26-setup.exe) monitoring software and tell me what your CPU temperature is. I'm fairly certain it just needs some new thermal paste.

http://i.imgur.com/jAnDLib.png
here you go bro :)


There might be something wrong with the fan etc as when I run like 15 tibia clients the laptop gets extremely hot and also I have this under it I thought it might help and it did a little but not totaly


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trust-Laptop-Cooling-Stand-Xstream/dp/B0037RIDYS

J.Dre
01-07-2015, 11:51 PM
Yeah, that looks like it is getting warm. You need some new thermal compound.

What is the laptop you bought? The laptop name.

J.Dre
01-08-2015, 03:26 AM
Rydan,

I'd recommend something very similar to this post (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=383353&viewfull=1#post383353).

Additional notes: A full-tower case allows for better cooling. The 750D is a great case. If you want to, I'd recommend upgrading to a GTX 980 graphics card. Or if you want to go SLI, dual GTX 970's would be a great combination. Keep in mind: The 5820k is limited to dual (2x) PCIE support. The 5930k & 5960x will support up to four graphics cards. The Samsung 850 EVO is new. It is based on the latest 3D-VNAND technology. It comes with a 5 Year/150TBW warranty. I'd recommend grabbing one of these. If you want a more "durable" or "sustainable" solution, I'd recommend the Samsung 850 PRO.

Al Bundy
01-08-2015, 07:06 AM
J.Dre If u bored and likes to build computers, See what u can turn 2521,02(USD) into :)

dnalyks
01-08-2015, 07:42 AM
Yeah, that looks like it is getting warm. You need some new thermal compound.

What is the laptop you bought? The laptop name.

Its an asus, I think it had a couple things added to it to make it a little more powerful

J.Dre
01-08-2015, 01:53 PM
J.Dre If u bored and likes to build computers, See what u can turn 2521,02(USD) into :)

I don't do this because I'm bored.


Its an asus, I think it had a couple things added to it to make it a little more powerful

I need to know the name of it. "ASUS ROG G750JX" or something.

nichjeremy
01-09-2015, 03:06 AM
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-5820K Six-Core 3.30GHz 15MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011-V3
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card (Maxwell) (Single Card)
HDD: 128GB Apotop SSD + 1TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR4/2400MHz Memory (Crucial Ballistix Sport)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI X99S SLI PLUS ATX w/Intel GbLAN, 4x Gen3 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 1x M.2, 8x SATA 6Gb/s

J.Dre
01-09-2015, 05:04 PM
nichjeremy,

What are those for? You decided to get those, or you want my feedback on those?

nichjeremy
01-09-2015, 09:43 PM
nichjeremy,

What are those for? You decided to get those, or you want my feedback on those?

is this a good setup? i know u recomended me the grahpics card but i looked at switching out the cpu for this

J.Dre
01-09-2015, 10:20 PM
is this a good setup? i know u recomended me the grahpics card but i looked at switching out the cpu for this

I would recommend a different motherboard, but those are fairly good specifications. The 5820k is limited to 2x PCI-E (dual graphics). It will not support TRI-SLI.

Adrax 13
01-24-2015, 12:21 AM
Looking to be able to run about 50 or so tibia clients my budget is possible with that i want 300 dollars the lesser the better cause im not really looking for gaming im looking to maximizes the amount of tibia clients i can run. And i want it to be silent cause it will be in my room :p. If my request is not possible then super sad face :(

J.Dre
01-24-2015, 01:03 AM
Looking to be able to run about 50 or so tibia clients my budget is possible with that i want 300 dollars the lesser the better cause im not really looking for gaming im looking to maximizes the amount of tibia clients i can run. And i want it to be silent cause it will be in my room :p. If my request is not possible then super sad face :(

The cheapest processor that may run that many clients is approximately $100 (AMD FX-6300). You will not be able to build a PC for less than $300 to run that many clients. You can build a PC for around $350-$400 that will run about half that many clients with windAddons (MAYBE). The PC you want will cost at least $500, excluding the OS cost. ;)

Adrax 13
01-24-2015, 01:16 AM
The cheapest processor that may run that many clients is approximately $100 (AMD FX-6300). You will not be able to build a PC for less than $300 to run that many clients. You can build a PC for around $350-$400 that will run about half that many clients with windAddons (MAYBE). The PC you want will cost at least $500, excluding the OS cost. ;)
Not to test you but really half that ? Cause the Pc i got is from a pretty basic computer 4gb ram and shit 64gb or something harddrive with windows vista and i run a max of 16 clients with windAddons ;p. Your news is super sad full but i will take it thanks man :)

Proteus
01-24-2015, 05:18 AM
Yeah I have a basic pc, completely stock and can run about 50 clients
Windmods with the framerate set to .1 unfocused lowers all clients down to 1%, but that's just me ^^ my pc stock, brand new doesn't cost more then 200 for suree
I'll post it later for yah

J.Dre
01-24-2015, 01:12 PM
Adrax 13,

It all depends on the settings you run your clients at. I don't see how 1 FPS is playable, but if it is, then good. Maybe a $300 PC can run 50 clients. I've never tested it, so I can't accurately recommend a PC of such low cost. All of the PC's I've ever made were over $500, and they all can run 30-50 clients - that I can confirm. ;)

You're not testing me, lol. It's fine.

Iconic
01-28-2015, 01:01 AM
J.Dre Hi there, you really look like a guy that completely understands his technology so I was hoping you could explain something for me if it'd be okay.

I have bought a new toshiba laptop, which works just adequately for a laptop. However if I was planning to bot more clients, how could I actually improve the CPU usage as that seems to be the problem? For example, would I need to purchase something and how would it actually work? I flunked internet technology, so would you be able to explain it to me like I was an eight year old?

Thank you in advance,

WillS

J.Dre
01-28-2015, 01:16 AM
Iconic,

A lot of people claim "Wind Addons" helps them run more clients. You can download it here (https://tibiawindbot.com/free-tools.html). If that doesn't help, then your laptop may just be too weak to run as many clients as you would like. It is designed to decrease CPU usage by a good margin per client.

Iconic
01-28-2015, 01:48 AM
Ah sorry, I was to ask what they were but now I've seen. Is that website 100% trustworthy? :)

And thank you for such a sudden response and good answer J.Dre

WillS:)

J.Dre
01-28-2015, 01:58 AM
Ah sorry, I was to ask what they were but now I've seen. Is that website 100% trustworthy? :)

And thank you for such a sudden response and good answer J.Dre

WillS:)

I'm fairly certain it's safe. A lot of people have been using it. That link I provided is the real website, so you should be good.

And no problem. Good luck. ;)

Iconic
01-28-2015, 02:14 AM
Thank you, have a look at a thread there named by Kim! It's fucking crazy J.Dre!

Koksik22
01-31-2015, 01:08 PM
Not to test you but really half that ? Cause the Pc i got is from a pretty basic computer 4gb ram and shit 64gb or something harddrive with windows vista and i run a max of 16 clients with windAddons ;p. Your news is super sad full but i will take it thanks man :)


xeon x5460
mainboard with chipset P45
8gb of ram ddr2
graphic card with 2gb of memmory
good cpu cooler to make nice oc :)

that should be cheaper then 300usd and enough to bot 50mc+ with windaddons
its old socket 775 ( you need make modification in cpu to work on socket 775 from 771)
http://www.delidded.com/lga-771-to-775-adapter/2/?

Adrax 13
02-05-2015, 05:50 PM
xeon x5460
mainboard with chipset P45
8gb of ram ddr2
graphic card with 2gb of memmory
good cpu cooler to make nice oc :)

that should be cheaper then 300usd and enough to bot 50mc+ with windaddons
its old socket 775 ( you need make modification in cpu to work on socket 775 from 771)
http://www.delidded.com/lga-771-to-775-adapter/2/?
Thanks mate ill def look into this :)
Also does anyone know of a good computer part websites that does good combos like buy this get this item free and so on lol

J.Dre
03-16-2015, 08:09 PM
Just thought I'd give this thread a bump with some new information:

The GTX Titan X, AMD R9 390x, and 980Ti are expected to debut soon. The Titan X and 390x sooner than the 980Ti. The reason I mention this is because I am actually planning on building a new computer soon :cool: and thought it may be helpful to others in the same boat. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

http://i61.tinypic.com/fwtwg2.png

These are early benchmarks based on the rumored specifications. The Titan X results are probably the most accurate, as it is expected to launch tomorrow (Mar. 17th). As you can see, the new cards are going to be very good compared to previous generation cards. All of them are based on new technology and architecture.

The prices are rumored as well, but expected as follows:

GTX Titan X: $999 - $1349 USD.
AMD R9 390x: $799 - $999 USD.
GTX 980Ti: $799 - $999 USD.

J.Dre

nichjeremy
03-24-2015, 04:12 AM
Jeese guys so I'm building my first computer right now as I type. It's getting a little confusing because some of the parts on the video don't match up 100%. Like the fan slots on my mobo are 4 prong. And my case fan connectors are for a 3 prong. Still trying to figure out how to connect all the leds. I'm on the ssd and hdd part right now. most of everything else is done. I still have Sara cables to connect plus I have to install my graphics card. I went with a evga ssc 960

nichjeremy
03-24-2015, 09:26 AM
Everything is finished on my first build. Only when I click the power button all the fans and lights turn on for a moment and then it stops. Can't get a full boot on the computer. I don't know what I did wrong

J.Dre
03-25-2015, 12:55 AM
Sounds like your BIOS may need an update.

Edit: You may also have the wrong type of motherboard (incompatible).

nichjeremy
03-26-2015, 08:28 PM
It ended up being that the power supply was faulty and when I tried a new power supply the motherboard itself wasn't producing any bios or picture so I had to replace them. This time I went with a higher end power supply and a great motherboard that has OC genie 4 and can run SLI on my graphics card if I want to add in a second one later so next week I will let you know how it turned out.

J.Dre
03-27-2015, 01:35 AM
Yeah, you can't cheap out on those things.

Al Bundy
03-28-2015, 12:06 PM
Yeah, you can't cheap out on those things.

Mate, i need some help here. Idk if this setup is good but the prices are 1750 usd~
Or if u could come with some other recommendations about it

Corsair Carbide 330R Blackout Edition
Cooler Master G650M, 650W PSU
Intel Core i7-4790K
Corsair H60 Hydro Series CPU Kylare
ASUS Z97-P, Socket-1150
HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz 16GB Red
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 970 4GB
Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB 2.5" OEM
Samsung DVD Writer, SH-224DB



Cooler Master G650M, 650W PSU
Intel Core i7-5820K, Socket-LGA2011-3
Intel Air Cooling TS13A
ASUS X99-A, Socket 2011-3
Crucial DDR4 2133MHz 16GB (4x4GB)
MSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB
Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB 2.5" OEM
Samsung DVD Writer, SH-224DB

J.Dre
03-28-2015, 04:22 PM
Al Bundy,

You want to spend around $1700 USD? If you're in Europe, the prices I find are going to be lower than your prices. So, I can probably build a better system for the same amount. With that in mind, I'll put together something for around $1500, and that should leave you some room for inflation/taxes.



Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 450D [+$110] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Mid-Tower-Computer-CC-9011049-WW/dp/B00I6BJ8MQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1420642965&sr=8-3&keywords=corsair+650d))
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K (8MB Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) [+$335] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420643021&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+core+i7+4790k))
CPU Liquid Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H80i GT Performance [+$100] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Performance-Liquid-Cooler-CW-9060017-WW/dp/B00SV7IIDU/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559461&sr=1-15&keywords=water+cooling))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 [+$330] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Superclocked-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643133&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: ASUS ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Z97-PRO [+$210] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Motherboards-Z97-PRO-Wi-Fi-AC/dp/B00K2R6GDQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559022&sr=1-3&keywords=asus+z97+lga+1150+atx))
PSU: Corsair RM Series 650 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified [+$99] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Power-Supply/dp/B00EB7UIRS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559158&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+rm650))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB 2x8GB DDR3 2400MHz [+$155] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559105&sr=1-2&keywords=ddr3+2400mhz))
Optical Drive: LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM Blu-ray Optical Drive [+$45] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/LG-Internal-UH12NS30-Blu-ray-Optical/dp/B00DVTBM2W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643318&sr=1-1&keywords=blu+ray+optical))
Hard Drive (Storage): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559387&sr=1-5&keywords=1tb+hard+drive))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$110] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559334&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+850))

Sub-total: $1564 (with SSD).
Taxes: Unknown

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. The motherboard I chose has great reviews, and it also has built in A/C WiFi, which will come in handy. The water cooler is a bit more expensive but it is a premium cooler (a new version).

Diamond.
03-28-2015, 05:06 PM
Any suggestions on laptops?

Budget: $1200 (+-200)
Preferably 13.3" or 14" but 15.6" is alright too

Thanks!

J.Dre
03-28-2015, 07:56 PM
Any suggestions on laptops?

Budget: $1200 (+-200)
Preferably 13.3" or 14" but 15.6" is alright too

Thanks!

Laptops are a bit tricky. It depends mainly on what you plan to use it for.

For gaming, I definitely recommend getting a dedicated GPU and a quad-core CPU, as it will last much longer and perform better. A GTX 960M is the lowest I would ever recommend, and even that I am hesitant to recommend because games are now using more than 2GB's of VRAM, and some require more than 2GB's.

I've gathered a few options for you:

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7339-clevo-w230sd-p-8073.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7155-clevo-n155sd-eta-mar-30th-p-8083.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-gl551jwds71-p-8096.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8650-clevo-p650sa-p-7847.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8651-clevo-p650se-p-7690.html

Notes: The Alienware 13 is also an option, but it has a dual-core CPU and isn't all that great as a "long-term" investment. Unless you plan to upgrade every year, you should avoid the Alienware 13 laptop. It will also depreciate very quickly because of this. Keep in mind that the 960M is roughly 50% less powerful than the 970M, and approximately 20% less powerful than the 965M. You may have to sacrifice portability for performance, if that's what you want. The price for performance ratio is much better in the 15" notebook range.

Diamond.
03-28-2015, 08:59 PM
Laptops are a bit tricky. It depends mainly on what you plan to use it for.

For gaming, I definitely recommend getting a dedicated GPU and a quad-core CPU, as it will last much longer and perform better. A GTX 960M is the lowest I would ever recommend, and even that I am hesitant to recommend because games are now using more than 2GB's of VRAM, and some require more than 2GB's.

I've gathered a few options for you:

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7339-clevo-w230sd-p-8073.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7155-clevo-n155sd-eta-mar-30th-p-8083.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-gl551jwds71-p-8096.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8650-clevo-p650sa-p-7847.html
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8651-clevo-p650se-p-7690.html

Notes: The Alienware 13 is also an option, but it has a dual-core CPU and isn't all that great as a "long-term" investment. Unless you plan to upgrade every year, you should avoid the Alienware 13 laptop. It will also depreciate very quickly because of this. Keep in mind that the 960M is roughly 50% less powerful than the 970M, and approximately 20% less powerful than the 965M. You may have to sacrifice portability for performance, if that's what you want. The price for performance ratio is much better in the 15" notebook range.

Thanks for the links, currently on phone so I'll check them out in a bit.

With the same budget, would you reccomend building a desktop instead?

J.Dre
03-28-2015, 09:26 PM
You'll get more bang for your buck with a desktop, but that's up to you. If you need a laptop, buy one.

svennn
03-29-2015, 12:13 PM
J.Dre

Thought i'd update you on what I got for my desktop.


Computer Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black Pearl)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970
PSU: EVGA SuperNova G2 850W
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury White - 2x8GB, 1866MHz CL10
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 250GB
Network Card: Asus PCE-N15

'Tis simply a beast. Haven't really had too much time to try any heavy workloads, but it doesn't make any noise whatsoever when it comes to my everyday usage.
Not too sure how much it cost, and tbh i'd rather not think about it ;) .

Al Bundy
03-29-2015, 01:47 PM
Al Bundy,

You want to spend around $1700 USD? If you're in Europe, the prices I find are going to be lower than your prices. So, I can probably build a better system for the same amount. With that in mind, I'll put together something for around $1500, and that should leave you some room for inflation/taxes.



Computer Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 450D [+$110] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Obsidian-Mid-Tower-Computer-CC-9011049-WW/dp/B00I6BJ8MQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1420642965&sr=8-3&keywords=corsair+650d))
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K (8MB Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) [+$335] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420643021&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+core+i7+4790k))
CPU Liquid Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H80i GT Performance [+$100] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Performance-Liquid-Cooler-CW-9060017-WW/dp/B00SV7IIDU/ref=sr_1_15?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559461&sr=1-15&keywords=water+cooling))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 Superclocked ACX 2.0 4GB GDDR5 [+$330] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Superclocked-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643133&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+970))
Motherboard: ASUS ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Z97-PRO [+$210] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Motherboards-Z97-PRO-Wi-Fi-AC/dp/B00K2R6GDQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559022&sr=1-3&keywords=asus+z97+lga+1150+atx))
PSU: Corsair RM Series 650 Watt ATX/EPS 80PLUS Gold-Certified [+$99] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-80PLUS-Gold-Certified-Power-Supply/dp/B00EB7UIRS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559158&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+rm650))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB 2x8GB DDR3 2400MHz [+$155] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2400MHz-Desktop-CMY16GX3M2A2400C11R/dp/B00EUPV2RQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559105&sr=1-2&keywords=ddr3+2400mhz))
Optical Drive: LG Internal UH12NS30 BD-ROM Blu-ray Optical Drive [+$45] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/LG-Internal-UH12NS30-Blu-ray-Optical/dp/B00DVTBM2W/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420643318&sr=1-1&keywords=blu+ray+optical))
Hard Drive (Storage): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559387&sr=1-5&keywords=1tb+hard+drive))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$110] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559334&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+850))

Sub-total: $1564 (with SSD).
Taxes: Unknown

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. The motherboard I chose has great reviews, and it also has built in A/C WiFi, which will come in handy. The water cooler is a bit more expensive but it is a premium cooler (a new version).

Couldnt find that op drive but atm without it its on 1730~

J.Dre
03-29-2015, 01:59 PM
J.Dre

Thought i'd update you on what I got for my desktop.


Computer Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black Pearl)
Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970
PSU: EVGA SuperNova G2 850W
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury White - 2x8GB, 1866MHz CL10
SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 250GB
Network Card: Asus PCE-N15

'Tis simply a beast. Haven't really had too much time to try any heavy workloads, but it doesn't make any noise whatsoever when it comes to my everyday usage.
Not too sure how much it cost, and tbh i'd rather not think about it ;) .

Looks pretty good. Good choice on the Strix 970 and 4790k. That 4790k should do you well for years to come. It's a pretty powerful processor, and can be overclocked like a champ. Don't push it too hard, though. You don't want to brick your system.


Couldnt find that op drive but atm without it its on 1730~

I figured it would be more expensive for you, that's why I tried to stay around $1500 USD.

Al Bundy
03-29-2015, 03:17 PM
J.Dre
would this work instead of lg internal?

Samsung DVD Writer, SH-224DB

J.Dre
03-29-2015, 03:50 PM
You should find a blu-ray player. That one has a lot of reviews saying it's loud.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136268&cm_re=blu-ray_internal-_-27-136-268-_-Product

Try this.

Al Bundy
03-29-2015, 06:29 PM
You should find a blu-ray player. That one has a lot of reviews saying it's loud.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136268&cm_re=blu-ray_internal-_-27-136-268-_-Product

Try this.

sadly there aint any LG's on the page im checking and its like the biggest one in sweden

Adky
03-29-2015, 09:27 PM
Couldnt find that op drive but atm without it its on 1730~

I'm curious, what do you intend to use your PC for?

Al Bundy
03-30-2015, 05:12 PM
I'm curious, what do you intend to use your PC for?

Streaming, max out far cry

Adky
03-30-2015, 11:38 PM
Streaming, max out far cry

At what resolution? Is aesthetics important to you? Do you want a quiet PC? Why do you need an optical drive? Are you comfortable without a SSD, do you need a new hard drive, could you take the one from your current PC?
Do you want a case with a window? One without will make less sound. Do you hate LEDs, do you love LEDs?


I doubt you need the i7 4790K, i5 4690K should be enough and costs 900~ SEK less. The H80i is like 1000 SEK and the fans are very loud, you probably want to replace them.

I don't think you need 16GB RAM, especially at 2400MHz. You definitely don't need a 2100 SEK motherboard.

The RM750 costs 5$ more than the RM650.


You can cut down on a lot of things and put some of the money on a 1440p/4k screen, 980 or other equipment.
If you don't care for aesthetics and a quiet environment, I can put something together. If you do care, I need more information, pick out a case and what color you're going for and your needs (hdd, sdd, optical drive, monitor etc)

nichjeremy
04-02-2015, 09:20 PM
j.dre i finished my computer i remember going back and forth over different parts. and i actually built it all myself.
i just finished all the software downloads right now and downloading tibia and my auto maps and stuff
i went with

Rosewill Edition Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Five Fans, Window Side Panel and Top HDD Dock BLACKHAWK-BLUE $67.99

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit, System Builder OEM DVD 1 Pack (New Packaging)
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
$94.99

SanDisk 128GB SATA 6.0GB/s 2.5-Inch 7mm Height Solid State Drive (SSD) With Read Up To 475MB/s- SDSSDP-128G-G25
Sold by: WHOLESALE TAG
$58.99

Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHZ (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory CMY8GX3M2A1600C9R
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
$76.99

EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB GDDR5 128bit, PCI-E 3.0 Dual-Link DVI-I, 3 x DP, HDMI, SLI, HDCP, G-SYNC Ready Graphics Cards 02G-P4-2966-KR
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
$204.99

WD Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 7200rpm Internal Hard Drive
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
$44.99
Condition: New

ASUS DRW-24F1ST - DVD SATA SUPERMULTI Burner - SERIAL ATA - BLACK - OEM Bulk Drive
Sold by: Acumen Disc
$20.99

MSI ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 Motherboards Z97-G45 GAMING
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
$137.95

Seasonic M12II-850 BRONZE ATX 850 Power Supply
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
$114.99

Zalman Computer Noise Prevention System with Silent Fan Pure Copper Heatsink CPU Cooler CNPS9500AT
Sold by: J-Electronics
$46.73

Intel Core i5-4670K Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.4 GHZ 6 MB Cache - BX80646I54670K
Sold by: Amazon.com LLC
$239.29

wasnt bad all together. im only playing tibia so i dont think i need much more.
i was able to put everything together in under 2 hours. downloading the software took longer
and i used the video you posted for the build. i also subscribed to his youtube channel
i went with my SSD for my boot drive. and my HDD for my storage of everything else
the same guy does a quick youtube video on how to do that as well. if it wasnt for you im sure i would have paid a huge markup at cyberpower pc. and even with my fan system its completely quiet. zalman makes a great pure copper CPU fan
i even bought some thermal paste and added it to the top of the Cpu

J.Dre
04-02-2015, 10:09 PM
At what resolution? Is aesthetics important to you? Do you want a quiet PC? Why do you need an optical drive? Are you comfortable without a SSD, do you need a new hard drive, could you take the one from your current PC?
Do you want a case with a window? One without will make less sound. Do you hate LEDs, do you love LEDs?


I doubt you need the i7 4790K, i5 4690K should be enough and costs 900~ SEK less. The H80i is like 1000 SEK and the fans are very loud, you probably want to replace them.

I don't think you need 16GB RAM, especially at 2400MHz. You definitely don't need a 2100 SEK motherboard.

The RM750 costs 5$ more than the RM650.

You can cut down on a lot of things and put some of the money on a 1440p/4k screen, 980 or other equipment.
If you don't care for aesthetics and a quiet environment, I can put something together. If you do care, I need more information, pick out a case and what color you're going for and your needs (hdd, sdd, optical drive, monitor etc)

So, you recommend cutting down on components and getting a higher resolution screen? That makes no sense at all. You're suggesting he get weaker components to support more demanding gaming. By the way, the PSU's are not $5 apart from each other (see here (http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zvsbw4.jpg)), and he doesn't need 750W. The specs I chose were all looked up at the time of the post and chosen for good reason, including the CPU.

nichjeremy,

Those are decent specs. Not a bad build. Glad to see you got yourself an SSD. That 850W PSU is a bit overkill, though. :D

Adky
04-02-2015, 11:22 PM
So, you recommend cutting down on components and getting a higher resolution screen? That makes no sense at all. You're suggesting he get weaker components to support more demanding gaming. By the way, the PSU's are not $5 apart from each other (see here (http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zvsbw4.jpg)), and he doesn't need 750W. The specs I chose were all looked up at the time of the post and chosen for good reason, including the CPU.

nichjeremy,

Those are decent specs. Not a bad build. Glad to see you got yourself an SSD. That 850W PSU is a bit overkill, though. :D

You are suggesting a 1000 SEK (120$) liquid cpu cooler, 1600 SEK (185$) memory, 2100 SEK (240$) motherboard, 1200 SEK (140$) SSD, 1250 SEK (145$) case and last, the unnecessary CPU for 380$.
None of this makes sense. You are spending hundreds of dollars on unnecessary items.

Lets swap the h80i (120$) for the common CM hyper 212 evo at 35 bucks. That is 85$ towards something else.
There's so much memory to chose from, they're all around 85-90$ (2x4 @ 1600), 100$ saved.
Motherboard, lets say 150$, there's many good motherboards for 150$. 90$ saved.
The Intel 530 Series 120GB is pretty neat at 80$. 65$ saved.
Case, honestly you can cheap out how much you want but for now, lets go with some popular ones, like the R5 for 120$, or why the hell not the R4 for 93$, that is pretty fucking sweet.
CPU, like I said, i5-4690k will do FINE. 110$ saved.



So that's approx 500$ in the bank and I didn't even mention the PSU, but what I said was correct, I'm talking about swedish vendors here. But he could save 50$~ and buy a cheaper PSU, like the CX series.
But wait, just for fun, lets make it 585$ because of PSU and the CPU cooler since it really isn't necessary. I don't know if the optical drive is necessary but lets say not and lets add another 50$, im a fair person. So 635$

So lets see, the cheapest 980 here is the MSI GTX 980 OCV1 for 625$, meaning we have to add 185$ for it (970 is 440$). Well shit. We have a 980 and there's still 450$ in the bank.
So lets look for a monitor then, the Samsung U28D590D and AOC U2868PQU is 430$.

Well, shit. We have 20$ left, I wanted a different 980 for you, there's one available for 660$ from Zotac.

These prices arent 100% accurate. I only used one site so you'll save a few bucks ordering from different stores and there's this:

http://www.sweclockers.com/annonser
http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/datorkomponenter/fyndvaror/
http://www.tradera.com/
http://www.blocket.se/


Tradera & blocket is mostly junk, but you can find some pretty good stuff there. Also netonnet does the same thing as webhallen does, only not online, go there and you'll often find very good deals, I saved 60$ on my 970. There's also very often package deals which will save you 30$~.
If you buy used from sweclockers, tradera or blocket, you will (with a little patience) save a lot of money.
also if you live in Stockholm, I can sell you my old PSU and Optical drive for 50% store price, approx 55$ for both.



So J.Dre, does it make sense now?

But like I said, if you care for aesthetics, this is not the way to go.



Also about nichjeremy's build. That isn't decent, I'm sorry. He wasted 90$ on Windows, he bought an i5-4670k instead of i5-4690k, overkill PSU, bad CPU cooler and an optical drive. He could have bought a 970 for that money instead and a better CPU for less money.

edit: and better memory and ssd
edit2: and a better case

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 12:54 AM
You are suggesting a 1000 SEK (120$) liquid cpu cooler, 1600 SEK (185$) memory, 2100 SEK (240$) motherboard, 1200 SEK (140$) SSD, 1250 SEK (145$) case and last, the unnecessary CPU for 380$.
None of this makes sense. You are spending hundreds of dollars on unnecessary items.

Lets swap the h80i (120$) for the common CM hyper 212 evo at 35 bucks. That is 85$ towards something else.
There's so much memory to chose from, they're all around 85-90$ (2x4 @ 1600), 100$ saved.
Motherboard, lets say 150$, there's many good motherboards for 150$. 90$ saved.
The Intel 530 Series 120GB is pretty neat at 80$. 65$ saved.
Case, honestly you can cheap out how much you want but for now, lets go with some popular ones, like the R5 for 120$, or why the hell not the R4 for 93$, that is pretty fucking sweet.
CPU, like I said, i5-4690k will do FINE. 110$ saved.



So that's approx 500$ in the bank and I didn't even mention the PSU, but what I said was correct, I'm talking about swedish vendors here. But he could save 50$~ and buy a cheaper PSU, like the CX series.
But wait, just for fun, lets make it 585$ because of PSU and the CPU cooler since it really isn't necessary. I don't know if the optical drive is necessary but lets say not and lets add another 50$, im a fair person. So 635$

So lets see, the cheapest 980 here is the MSI GTX 980 OCV1 for 625$, meaning we have to add 185$ for it (970 is 440$). Well shit. We have a 980 and there's still 450$ in the bank.
So lets look for a monitor then, the Samsung U28D590D and AOC U2868PQU is 430$.

Well, shit. We have 20$ left, I wanted a different 980 for you, there's one available for 660$ from Zotac.

These prices arent 100% accurate. I only used one site so you'll save a few bucks ordering from different stores and there's this:

http://www.sweclockers.com/annonser
http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/datorkomponenter/fyndvaror/
http://www.tradera.com/
http://www.blocket.se/


Tradera & blocket is mostly junk, but you can find some pretty good stuff there. Also netonnet does the same thing as webhallen does, only not online, go there and you'll often find very good deals, I saved 60$ on my 970. There's also very often package deals which will save you 30$~.
If you buy used from sweclockers, tradera or blocket, you will (with a little patience) save a lot of money.
also if you live in Stockholm, I can sell you my old PSU and Optical drive for 50% store price, approx 55$ for both.



So J.Dre, does it make sense now?

But like I said, if you care for aesthetics, this is not the way to go.



Also about nichjeremy's build. That isn't decent, I'm sorry. He wasted 90$ on Windows, he bought an i5-4670k instead of i5-4690k, overkill PSU, bad CPU cooler and an optical drive. He could have bought a 970 for that money instead and a better CPU for less money.

edit: and better memory and ssd
edit2: and a better case

No, it doesn't make sense. You're putting the price tag above all else with your suggestions. That's not good advice. ;) He gave me a budget and asked my opinion on what's best, and that's exactly what I delivered. He didn't say, "I want to have a cheap build." Otherwise, I would have given him a cheap build. Yes, I would have probably been able to do better if I had known the exact currency conversion rates, but I "ball parked" it in anticipation for inflation. :rolleyes:

What you're suggesting is inferior in almost every aspect. The major issue with your suggestion is a weak CPU in combination with a flagship GPU - absolutely ridiculous combination for a desktop build that you want to last through upgrades down the road. The system specs I gave will last years longer, ultimately saving him money from having to upgrade to compensate for the lost performance about a year from now, offering a better foundation for upgradeability down the road. Also, purchasing a GTX 980 right now is not a wise decision (unless you get an excellent deal), especially since he doesn't need it. The 980Ti will be coming out soon, and next year Pascal will hit the market offering substantial improvements across the board. Spending $300~ on the 970 (which is more than enough to satisfy his needs & wants) is likely his best option. Everything I suggested has reasoning behind it, and actually saves him money (and time) long-term while satisfying all short-term needs and wants.

It's one thing to help, but you came here looking for a fight with your attitude. Your failed attempts at proving me wrong isn't helping anyone. This thread is a resource thread. You are proving yourself to be unresourceful. Stop trying to prove people wrong when you have no idea what you're talking about. You're only making yourself look like a fool.

If he wants to go cheap, and would like to disregard any future plans or possibilities with his build, he's free to follow your advice. But that's not what he asked for. My suggestions give him a good place to start for performance, price, and longevity.

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 01:07 AM
So, you recommend cutting down on components and getting a higher resolution screen? That makes no sense at all. You're suggesting he get weaker components to support more demanding gaming. By the way, the PSU's are not $5 apart from each other (see here (http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zvsbw4.jpg)), and he doesn't need 750W. The specs I chose were all looked up at the time of the post and chosen for good reason, including the CPU.

nichjeremy,

Those are decent specs. Not a bad build. Glad to see you got yourself an SSD. That 850W PSU is a bit overkill, though. :D

I went with the 850w and the oc genie 4 motherboard so i could run SLI In the future and not have to do any major part replacements. I know i dont need a 4k monitor now but in the future it looks like they will become more common and affordable

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 01:19 AM
I went with the 850w and the oc genie 4 motherboard so i could run SLI In the future and not have to do any major part replacements. I know i dont need a 4k monitor now but in the future it looks like they will become more common and affordable

That is understandable. Considering future plans is important in any build unless you're restricted to a tight budget.

By the way, did I recommend a build for you? Don't recall doing so, and I'm on a cell at the moment, so it's a pain to go through threads.

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 01:27 AM
Yes you did. The first budget i had was around 1500 but i decisded to do the research myself. I wanted to be self taught. I took bout 3 months of going through reviews and amazon and descided with those options

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 01:39 AM
nichjeremy,

You should have given me a heads up about the change of heart. I would have suggested some different stuff.


Another resource that may be beneficial to anyone building a new PC:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfVHIlSLK58

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 01:45 AM
Your right about the cpu i noticed that after. But the 960 im running is ssc and its already superclocked to high mghz than the 970 that u recommended. Im planning on overclocking the system up to 20% my entire build only cost me 1109$ and the dvd burner i have does everything all in one for 21$ im going to run SLI later and i have a tri led montior set up right now. Which will have a 4k monitor later so i planned for thr overkill psu

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 01:46 AM
My computer is completely silent i cant here it at all even when running a benchmark or stress test

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 02:00 AM
Your right about the cpu i noticed that after. But the 960 im running is ssc and its already superclocked to high mghz than the 970 that u recommended. Im planning on overclocking the system up to 20% my entire build only cost me 1109$ and the dvd burner i have does everything all in one for 21$ im going to run SLI later and i have a tri led montior set up right now. Which will have a 4k monitor later so i planned for thr overkill psu

Hate to break it to you, but 4k gaming is not going to be something you'll enjoy with those system specs. You'll have to lower graphics settings quite a bit. Even then it may be a struggle. Unless you plan to use 4k for graphics design or photo editing, I suggest avoiding it altogether. You should have let me know. :(

I'd suggest watching some gameplay videos at 4k with various GPU's. Even the GTX 980 struggles at 4k on the highest settings (< 50 FPS).

4k is not 200% scaling on 1080p. This is a common misconception, especially amongst BF4 players. 1080p has 2 million pixels and 4k has more than 8 million. So, it's technically 400%. This translates to up to 4x less FPS in games.

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 02:12 AM
Even with 2 matching 960s ssc with maybe some overclocking?

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 02:14 AM
Im going to be desinging clothing and t shirts and also doing a calendar and some modleing picture editng. My girlfriends owns 420 hunnys on facebook. The website will be up next week were just selling t shirts but it will be a shop soon and eventually a bar

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 03:10 AM
Im going to be desinging clothing and t shirts and also doing a calendar and some modleing picture editng. My girlfriends owns 420 hunnys on facebook. The website will be up next week were just selling t shirts but it will be a shop soon and eventually a bar

It should be fine for anything other than 4k gaming. Not saying it won't work, just that it won't be ideal.

SLI has scaling issues in some games, and in rare cases, is not even supported in games (e.g. 960 SLI does not outperform a single 980 enough to justify it.) At 4k in Crysis 3, you can expect GTX 960 SLI to get an average of 10 FPS on the highest settings. The GTX 980 gets a 20 FPS average in the same game at the same settings. As you can see, 4k is extremely demanding.

However, with what you plan to use it for, it should be fine. Just don't expect to max out every game on 4k. That's an unrealistic expectation. You'll have to play on Low-Medium settings for a playable frame rate.

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 03:38 AM
So would a gtx 980 be compatible with a 960 if i ran them both or do u recommend getting a whole new rig if i descide to go for 4k gaming. My main. Intentions is for graphics editing but in the future id like to upgrade to something spectacular. Currently i only play. Tibia. Id like to try some elder scrolls ormaybe battle. Field

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 03:50 AM
Is there any computer screen you reccomend thTs very clear. Like high end pc screens

Adky
04-03-2015, 10:19 AM
No, it doesn't make sense. You're putting the price tag above all else with your suggestions. That's not good advice. ;) He gave me a budget and asked my opinion on what's best, and that's exactly what I delivered. He didn't say, "I want to have a cheap build." Otherwise, I would have given him a cheap build. Yes, I would have probably been able to do better if I had known the exact currency conversion rates, but I "ball parked" it in anticipation for inflation. :rolleyes:

What you're suggesting is inferior in almost every aspect. The major issue with your suggestion is a weak CPU in combination with a flagship GPU - absolutely ridiculous combination for a desktop build that you want to last through upgrades down the road. The system specs I gave will last years longer, ultimately saving him money from having to upgrade to compensate for the lost performance about a year from now, offering a better foundation for upgradeability down the road. Also, purchasing a GTX 980 right now is not a wise decision (unless you get an excellent deal), especially since he doesn't need it. The 980Ti will be coming out soon, and next year Pascal will hit the market offering substantial improvements across the board. Spending $300~ on the 970 (which is more than enough to satisfy his needs & wants) is likely his best option. Everything I suggested has reasoning behind it, and actually saves him money (and time) long-term while satisfying all short-term needs and wants.

It's one thing to help, but you came here looking for a fight with your attitude. Your failed attempts at proving me wrong isn't helping anyone. This thread is a resource thread. You are proving yourself to be unresourceful. Stop trying to prove people wrong when you have no idea what you're talking about. You're only making yourself look like a fool.

If he wants to go cheap, and would like to disregard any future plans or possibilities with his build, he's free to follow your advice. But that's not what he asked for. My suggestions give him a good place to start for performance, price, and longevity.

A cheap build? My build is superior to yours. The i5-4690k isn't weak.

You're asking him to buy a 380$ CPU and a 440$ GPU you want him to upgrade in a year. I have no idea what I'm talking about, I came here to fight? You're giving people bad advice. He wont disregard his future plans. I'm giving advice and letting him know, one of his options is a 980 and a 4K screen.

How do you know a 970 will satisfy his needs and he doesnt need a 980?

I just woke up so I'll make this short, lets say he doesnt want a 4k screen, there's 450$ left in the bank, go nuts. Still a better build than yours. You're putting way too much weight on the CPU, start focusing on the GPU. A 970 with a i7-4790k is pointless.


If you don't mind me asking, what's your specs?

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 12:14 PM
Is there any computer screen you reccomend thTs very clear. Like high end pc screens

There are new ASUS monitors coming out soon that are 1440p, 120Hz, etc. but start at like $599. Kind of pricey.


A cheap build? My build is superior to yours. The i5-4690k isn't weak.

You're asking him to buy a 380$ CPU and a 440$ GPU you want him to upgrade in a year. I have no idea what I'm talking about, I came here to fight? You're giving people bad advice. He wont disregard his future plans. I'm giving advice and letting him know, one of his options is a 980 and a 4K screen.

How do you know a 970 will satisfy his needs and he doesnt need a 980?

I just woke up so I'll make this short, lets say he doesnt want a 4k screen, there's 450$ left in the bank, go nuts. Still a better build than yours. You're putting way too much weight on the CPU, start focusing on the GPU. A 970 with a i7-4790k is pointless.


If you don't mind me asking, what's your specs?

Superior? Are you trying to look like an idiot, or does it just come naturally? You do not know anything about hardware. Just stop. Read my post more carefully, and stop making stuff up.

P.S. I won't respond to anymore of your idiocy. Just isn't worth the trouble on a cell phone. When you decide to grow up, do some research into the aforementioned companies and their products, and then maybe we can have a mature conversation.

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 12:14 PM
Not sure how a double post showed up. My cell is horrible for vBulletin, lol.

nichjeremy
04-03-2015, 12:27 PM
yeah it seems like monitors are pretty expensive now adays lol.

Adky
04-03-2015, 12:46 PM
There are new ASUS monitors coming out soon that are 1440p, 120Hz, etc. but start at like $599. Kind of pricey.



Superior? Are you trying to look like an idiot, or does it just come naturally? You do not know anything about hardware. Just stop. Read my post more carefully, and stop making stuff up.

P.S. I won't respond to anymore of your idiocy. Just isn't worth the trouble on a cell phone. When you decide to grow up, do some research into the aforementioned companies and their products, and then maybe we can have a mature conversation.


What do you mean read your post more carefully and making stuff up?
Also 1440p and 144hz monitors are already available, you missed the important part.

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 02:03 PM
yeah it seems like monitors are pretty expensive now adays lol.

Those types of monitors are targeted more toward enthusiasts whom plan on spending north of $2500 on a system. It's a bit ridiculous for someone who spent $1200~ on a system to then purchase a monitor for more than half that for gaming.

Unfortunately, your system won't do well at 4k. 960SLi should run okay with 1440p, though. For a gamer in your position, I'd suggest you just purchase a 120Hz+/3D monitor at 1080p and enjoy the higher refresh rate. The higher resolution isn't worth the decreased performance for you. Lower settings (aka. lowering details to raise FPS) will contradict the resolutions purpose of increasing details in the first place. Just avoid 4k altogether.

Adky
04-03-2015, 02:41 PM
Anyone looking for help with anything PC related,
check out http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/wiki/related

I promise, you will get a lot more for your money.
You shouldn't listen to J.Dre, he is suggestion 30-70$ Optical Drives for every build,
he is bundling i5-4690k and 750ti together for 700$ builds,
970s with i7-4790k or i7-5820k,
16gb memory ram @ 2400mhz,
absolutetly fucking ridiculous, you've built many shitty rigs for people here, a lot of money wasted, you don't know as much as you think you do, you might aswell suggest prebuilt.

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 04:14 PM
Anyone looking for help with anything PC related,
check out http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/wiki/related

I promise, you will get a lot more for your money.
You shouldn't listen to J.Dre, he is suggestion 30-70$ Optical Drives for every build,
he is bundling i5-4690k and 750ti together for 700$ builds,
970s with i7-4790k or i7-5820k,
16gb memory ram @ 2400mhz,
absolutetly fucking ridiculous, you've built many shitty rigs for people here, a lot of money wasted, you don't know as much as you think you do, you might aswell suggest prebuilt.

Was trying to avoid saying it, but you leave me no choice: You are a moron.

Adky
04-03-2015, 04:16 PM
Was trying to avoid saying it, but you leave me no choice: You are a moron.

Explain

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 04:20 PM
Explain

Moron (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moron).

Adky
04-03-2015, 04:26 PM
Moron (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moron).

Oh please, why are you calling me a moron?

shadowart
04-03-2015, 04:26 PM
Booted a 10 year old pc cause I wanted to bot some while there's double exp and it was the only one I had access too. It can't even run Firefox for more than a minute without overheating but it can run three tibia clients on lowest graphics and with attached bots! This game truly has zero system requirements.

Nakuu
04-03-2015, 04:27 PM
Booted a 10 year old pc cause I wanted to bot some while there's double exp and it was the only one I had access too. It can't even run Firefox for more than a minute without overheating but it can run three tibia clients on lowest graphics and with attached bots! This game truly has zero system requirements.

This game has no changed during those 10 years either.

J.Dre
04-03-2015, 04:28 PM
Except the space requirement for the client, which is huge compared to what I remember it being, lol.

shadowart
04-03-2015, 04:31 PM
This game has no changed during those 10 years either.
A little at least :D I stopped playing in 2004 and started again in late 2014 and there were a lot of new things.

Nakuu
04-03-2015, 04:32 PM
I haven't played for 10 years either ;p and the only thing that has changed which might cause some fps drops are those new animations :D

Diamond.
04-09-2015, 07:00 PM
J.Dre , have you or anyone you known used any of the Sager brand laptops? Opinion on them?

TBH I've never heard of the brand which makes me a little hesitant.. Any info would help!

J.Dre
04-09-2015, 10:56 PM
J.Dre , have you or anyone you known used any of the Sager brand laptops? Opinion on them?

TBH I've never heard of the brand which makes me a little hesitant.. Any info would help!

Sager, Clevo, ASUS, Aorus, etc. are all decent companies and all have decent products. Might be able to find you a decent laptop, but it depends mainly on what you plan to use it for. Give me some more information to work with, including how much you want to spend.

kolibal
04-10-2015, 08:08 AM
I was thinking about some parts and would like your feedback
Intel Core i5-4460 Haswell
AMD Radeon R9 270X
MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
what do you think of these parts

shadowart
04-10-2015, 11:33 AM
What are you going to do with it.

J.Dre
04-10-2015, 12:25 PM
I was thinking about some parts and would like your feedback
Intel Core i5-4460 Haswell
AMD Radeon R9 270X
MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
what do you think of these parts

Based on the prices of those items, I'm going to guess your budget: Avoid those! There are better options for similar prices. Give me more info and a budget, and I can do better. But here's what I recommend:

CPU: The 4690k is a more suitable option.

GPU: I'd recommend the GTX 960 over the R9 270x. It is about the same price and performs better.

Motherboard: As for a budget motherboard, I recommend this one here: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboard-Motherboards-B85-G41-MATE/dp/B00D12OASW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428668149&sr=1-2&keywords=LGA+1150+motherboard

nichjeremy
04-10-2015, 09:03 PM
Ok J.Dre got a serious post here. Me and my buddie are going to open a cyber cafe with 50 gaming computers. We have a 50,000 budget. But that has to include our internet. Wiring. 4 flat screen tvs and xbox ones and ps4s. we want to keep each build under 800$. But need optimal performance. Needs about 500 gb of storage to hold 20 games. Or is their a mass storage that can be linked to a server?

J.Dre
04-10-2015, 10:05 PM
Ok J.Dre got a serious post here. Me and my buddie are going to open a cyber cafe with 50 gaming computers. We have a 50,000 budget. But that has to include our internet. Wiring. 4 flat screen tvs and xbox ones and ps4s. we want to keep each build under 800$. But need optimal performance. Needs about 500 gb of storage to hold 20 games. Or is their a mass storage that can be linked to a server?

Sounds cool. Are you and your friend still in the planning stages, expecting to open next year? Or are you planning to open this year? This is relevant to my recommendation.

Also, have you considered just starting with 25-30 computers and using the resources for the other 20~ to create a more friendly environment (e.g. good furniture, TV's, other amenities, etc.)? The environment is an important factor.

nichjeremy
04-10-2015, 11:04 PM
Well the idea is to make it as user friendly as possbile. Were going to open in a year hopefully. Were in the exciting planning stage. I need at least 25 computers with room for expansion. Theres only one cyber cafe on oahu and they have 50 pcs there on the opposite side of oahu. I live in hawaii btw. Theirs 1 million people and over 100 schools. The location is 10 minutes from univeristy of hawaii and KCC the 2 largest colleges in the state. I wanted to do 2 Led themes. Red team and blue team. The pcs leds will be red and blue. The lights will be red and blue and their will be led strips on the desks

nichjeremy
04-10-2015, 11:26 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ZZPppyi.jpg

I want blue and red theme
blue and red led strip on the desks. Blue and red led keyboards and gaming mouses
and I'll do wristbands and Vip member accounts bonus's. I'll sell gaming equipment that they can bring and use. Tournament winners get free time and money. As well as equipment. Tournaments are weekly

Y2Quakepc2
04-10-2015, 11:46 PM
damn i'd even go there to play some league.

J.Dre
04-11-2015, 12:05 AM
Well the idea is to make it as user friendly as possbile. Were going to open in a year hopefully. Were in the exciting planning stage. I need at least 25 computers with room for expansion. Theres only one cyber cafe on oahu and they have 50 pcs there on the opposite side of oahu. I live in hawaii btw. Theirs 1 million people and over 100 schools. The location is 10 minutes from univeristy of hawaii and KCC the 2 largest colleges in the state. I wanted to do 2 Led themes. Red team and blue team. The pcs leds will be red and blue. The lights will be red and blue and their will be led strips on the desks

In all honesty, now is not a good time to be purchasing hardware, especially considering you're doing so for a long-term investment. By the time you open, the hardware you would have purchased for your grand opening would be obsolete. NVIDIA Pascal (Q4 2015/Q1 2016) is reported to more than double the performance of NVIDIA Maxwell. You should consider pushing back the plans until June of 2016 and hold off on purchasing any capital. In doing so, you will literally have the most advanced and high-tech cyber cafe in your entire city because you would have anticipated such changes in technology, thus having the best hardware available. What am I implying? You will spend $50k~ on hardware either way, however, waiting until next year will give you twice the effective usefulness and lifespan than that of current generation hardware. This means you're litterally getting more "bang for your buck."

Anyway, here are some recommendations:


You want to purchase an NVIDIA GPU. AMD GPU's may be cheaper, but they're hotter, have worse driver support, and AMD products are not known for their longevity. An NVIDIA GPU will save you time and money, long-term, considering you most likely won't be upgrading hardware every year.
You need to purchase a GPU with more than 2GB's of VRAM. Again, a cyber cafe is a long-term investment. Next generation games are starting to have recommendations of 4GB or more, and are utilizing more than 2GB's today. Don't skimp out on hardware to save a few dollars here and there. It will come back around and bite you right in the ass.
A quad-core CPU (e.g. 4690k) is a definite plus. It has been shown that next generation games are demanding more from processors. You don't want to have an entire cyber cafe full of computers unable to handle new games.
Memory is important. 8GB's is more than enough for a gaming machine, and I think this amount is ideal. What frequency should you purchase? At least 1600MHz. In the USA, 2400MHz memory is only $20 more than 1600MHz. So, I'd recommend that if you can find a good deal.
A Z97 motherboard is also a good idea. It is more "future" proof than most others. Definitely recommend going with something modern.

NVIDIA's next generation Pascal GPU Architecture - NVIDIA Blogs (http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/03/17/pascal/)

Adky
04-11-2015, 09:44 AM
You want to purchase an NVIDIA GPU. AMD GPU's may be cheaper, but they're hotter, have worse driver support, and AMD products are not known for their longevity. An NVIDIA GPU will save you time and money, long-term, considering you most likely won't be upgrading hardware every year.


Source?

edit: why are you recommending hardware for overclocking?

edit2: 2gb is fine. Are you suggesting a 970? That's so unnecessary.

kolibal
04-11-2015, 12:31 PM
Based on the prices of those items, I'm going to guess your budget: Avoid those! There are better options for similar prices. Give me more info and a budget, and I can do better. But here's what I recommend:

CPU: The 4690k is a more suitable option.

GPU: I'd recommend the GTX 960 over the R9 270x. It is about the same price and performs better.

Motherboard: As for a budget motherboard, I recommend this one here: http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboard-Motherboards-B85-G41-MATE/dp/B00D12OASW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428668149&sr=1-2&keywords=LGA+1150+motherboard
Thanks for the reply but both the cpu and the gpu you said are valued 30 usd more in my country
my budget is gonna be around 500 usd , and that includes the cpu , gpu , mobo , RAM ,power supply and a CM hyper 212 evo :D

Adky
04-11-2015, 12:43 PM
Thanks for the reply but both the cpu and the gpu you said are valued 30 usd more in my country
my budget is gonna be around 500 usd , and that includes the cpu , gpu , mobo , RAM ,power supply and a CM hyper 212 evo :D

I just want to make sure, you have a HDD & a case already?

J.Dre
04-11-2015, 12:44 PM
Thanks for the reply but both the cpu and the gpu you said are valued 30 usd more in my country
my budget is gonna be around 500 usd , and that includes the cpu , gpu , mobo , RAM ,power supply and a CM hyper 212 evo :D

No problem. Happy to help.

It's $30 more (ea.) for +20%~ performance over your choices. Hope you aren't considering skipping them because of $60.

nichjeremy
04-11-2015, 07:23 PM
I wouldnt be buying hardware now i would wait. It would take me 30 days to do the 30 builds and get all the drivers and software going so ill wait untill next year. Buy i need a base idea of what my builds will be. And how much they will cost. I want good gear thats cost effective, but keep in mind these kids wont use these as home computers so mass storage doesnt sound right and whether i need a fast boot drive should be unknown to me. Like an ssd. I was thinking hybrid drives for all the pcs or a fast enough black drive like 750gb per computer

Any ideas on game platforms to. Have at my pc spot like leagur of legends or something
I need some games to get i havent played anything but tibia or skyrim in like 5 years.
Starcraft 2?
Diablo 3?
I want to be able to run Lol at high fps aswell as those othe 2 games

nichjeremy
04-11-2015, 07:29 PM
I think hes coming up with platforms tobuild on in case i need to upgrade. Im currently using a gtx 960 ssc 2 gb aswell as a z97 motherboard. But what i wanna know is the B85 gaming motherboard sufficient. And i definetly eant gold psu righy? For its longevity

nichjeremy
04-11-2015, 07:32 PM
Would a 4gb 750ti work. Or do u think i should get 960 ssc 4gb its like 230$

kolibal
04-11-2015, 07:34 PM
I just want to make sure, you have a HDD & a case already?

from my old pc , yes

nichjeremy
04-11-2015, 07:35 PM
Again i will be running this place with a friend from school that runs his own pc buisness on another island like repairs builds things like that. Hes very good but when it comes time in a year i need to pull my own weight or i feel like i have to pay him more than 15 an hour. I was thinking 15 an hour plus 8percent of store profits with 2percent increase every year

kolibal
04-11-2015, 07:35 PM
No problem. Happy to help.

It's $30 more (ea.) for +20%~ performance over your choices. Hope you aren't considering skipping them because of $60.

well I am gonna consider it though , do you think the hyper 212 evo is enough to overclock the K processor a little bit ? or is it even needed to clock

Adky
04-11-2015, 08:50 PM
I wouldnt be buying hardware now i would wait. It would take me 30 days to do the 30 builds and get all the drivers and software going so ill wait untill next year. Buy i need a base idea of what my builds will be. And how much they will cost. I want good gear thats cost effective, but keep in mind these kids wont use these as home computers so mass storage doesnt sound right and whether i need a fast boot drive should be unknown to me. Like an ssd. I was thinking hybrid drives for all the pcs or a fast enough black drive like 750gb per computer

Any ideas on game platforms to. Have at my pc spot like leagur of legends or something
I need some games to get i havent played anything but tibia or skyrim in like 5 years.
Starcraft 2?
Diablo 3?
I want to be able to run Lol at high fps aswell as those othe 2 games



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J.Dre
04-11-2015, 11:03 PM
well I am gonna consider it though , do you think the hyper 212 evo is enough to overclock the K processor a little bit ? or is it even needed to clock

It should be sufficient enough to handle a slight overclock.

J.Dre
04-11-2015, 11:05 PM
I think hes coming up with platforms tobuild on in case i need to upgrade. Im currently using a gtx 960 ssc 2 gb aswell as a z97 motherboard. But what i wanna know is the B85 gaming motherboard sufficient. And i definetly eant gold psu righy? For its longevity


Would a 4gb 750ti work. Or do u think i should get 960 ssc 4gb its like 230$

The Corsair RM series PSU's are excellent. Very efficient. Very silent. Very high quality. This is a PSU I highly recommend.

The 960 4GB is a much, much better choice than a 750Ti. Avoid old generation hardware for the cyber cafe.

nichjeremy
04-12-2015, 03:24 AM
30 Computers running these Stats:

Power Supply The Corsair RM series 700 watt PSU's
Graphics Card Evga GeForce gtx 960 SSC 4gb
Tower Rosewill gaming case 5 fan option
Motherboard MSI z97
Processor intel i5 4690k quad core
Ram corsair vengeance ram 8gb 1600mhz
Keyboard E-Blue Combatant
Mouse Zelotes Opitcal mouse
Head Set Sades SA-708

basic set up. not too cheap but perfect to run the newest games
also i need a good idea for a HDD i need something that will perform well because i dont want to buy 30 SSDs for these computers i dont need a fast boot drive. just something that will load fine but run these games well. i heard black drives are good. i believe 750 Gigabytes will be fine. im only running maybe 15 to 20 games at my shop.

J.Dre
04-12-2015, 12:41 PM
nichjeremy:

You can save some money with that build. For example, the PSU is pretty big. The RM550 will suffice. I can put together a more economic build offering the same performance for you later, if you'd like.

Did you read my earlier post on the previous page? I hope you did. Now is not a good time to be purchasing hardware for such an investment. For personal computing, it's not a big deal.



Sager, Clevo, ASUS, Aorus, etc. are all decent companies and all have decent products. Might be able to find you a decent laptop, but it depends mainly on what you plan to use it for. Give me some more information to work with, including how much you want to spend.

Diamond.: Still waiting for your reply.

Diamond.
04-12-2015, 06:33 PM
I'm 50/50 between building a PC and getting one of the listed laptops. I don't really need portability and it does seem a desktop would be more beneficial long term.
Was thinking about building a desktop with similar, if not, the exact same parts as what you've listed in pg 10. Are all those parts still recommended? Working with around the same budget as the build estimates. Only concern about the desktop is I'm not entirely sure how to set everything up after parts are ordered. J.Dre

J.Dre
04-12-2015, 06:39 PM
I'm 50/50 between building a PC and getting one of the listed laptops. I don't really need portability and it does seem a desktop would be more beneficial long term.
Was thinking about building a desktop with similar, if not, the exact same parts as what you've listed in pg 10. Are all those parts still recommended? Working with around the same budget as the build estimates. Only concern about the desktop is I'm not entirely sure how to set everything up after parts are ordered. J.Dre

Slight adjustments to that list:

Case: I'd find another mid-tower case. It doesn't have to be as expensive, either.
GPU: I'd recommend the "FTW Edition" GTX 970 over that one - it's quieter, overclocks better, and should be the same price.
RAM: If you don't need 16GB's, don't buy it. It'll save you money and can always be upgraded later.

Other than that, it's good.

SolitaryPal
04-12-2015, 09:05 PM
Howdy, gonna list my current build - I'm looking and wondering what I should upgrade to improve performance, I'm thinking it might be time for a new CPU and possibly Mobo - any suggestions?

Case: Antec 1200
PSU: Corsair 750W
CPU: i5 750 @ 2.67 ghz
RAM: 12GB Corsair xms ddr3
Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel
GPU: GTX 750 Ti EVGA
SSD: Samsung 512 GB

So yea, builds looking a bit outdated right now - I'm not looking to upgrade the whole thing immediatley, I normally go a component every 6 months or so just wondering where I'll see the biggest performance increase right now.

J.Dre
04-12-2015, 09:16 PM
SolitaryPal,

You're going to need a new motherboard (and definitely want a new one). Motherboards are the basis for all future upgrades. From what I can see, I'd recommend a new Motherboard, CPU, and GPU. The other parts are still decent enough.

Few questions:


What's your budget like?
Do you want to go LGA 1150? (Less features, not as future proof, but very budget-friendly.)
Do you want to go LGA 2011-3? (More features, more future-proof, but more expensive.)

SolitaryPal
04-12-2015, 09:19 PM
There isn't really a budget - I'll get what I need to get.

I'd ballpark 500 GBP for now

Future Proof works better for me in the long run, so I'd guess the 2011 - 3

J.Dre
04-12-2015, 09:27 PM
There isn't really a budget - I'll get what I need to get.

I'd ballpark 500 GBP for now

With that budget you'll want to stick with LGA 1150. I can get you all three of the upgrades you'll want. If you decide to go the LGA 2011-3 route, it is going to limit you to probably 2 of the 3 upgrades (at best) with that budget.

With these upgrades, you'll be able to play pretty much any game at fairly high settings and tackle any task for a good 2-3 years. I tried to get a pretty "future proof" motherboard with some good features:



Motherboard: MSI ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$110] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboards-Z97S-SLI-KRAIT/dp/B00OJZTSR8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1428873649&sr=8-4&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz LGA 1150 [+$235] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428873741&sr=8-1&keywords=4690k))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 4GB Super SC ACX 2.0+ [+$250] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-128bit-Graphics-04G-P4-3966-KR/dp/B00UOYQ5LA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428873771&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+960+4gb))

Notes: I recommend you get a water cooler for that 4690k. The memory you have may be a bit dated, too. You can upgrade that but it's not necessary. Just be sure to get Corsair DDR3 2400MHz memory. (It's like $10-$20 more than 1600MHz or 1866MHz, you may as well go for it.)

SolitaryPal
04-12-2015, 09:32 PM
Thanks, appreciate it. I'm not very tech savvy and my last PC guru ended up moving out of town for work - cheers for making me a list :)

Sol

J.Dre
04-12-2015, 09:35 PM
Thanks, appreciate it. I'm not very tech savvy and my last PC guru ended up moving out of town for work - cheers for making me a list :)

Sol

No problem. If you want to get LGA 2011 components, you'll be hitting your maximum budget with 2 out of the 3 areas I recommend upgrading. It probably isn't necessary for you. The LGA 1150 setup is very good for basic users/gamers. LGA 2011-3 is mainly for enthusiasts. The motherboard I would recommend (for an LGA 2011-3 build) would be around $300 itself.

Adky
04-12-2015, 10:32 PM
This thread is fucking retarded.

nichjeremy
04-12-2015, 11:08 PM
Yeah of course i wouldnt be buying any hardware now im just taking a step to get a basic idea of what type of hardware will run a video shop fine. Thats the easy part. The harder part is shop utilization. Desks chairs. Running a proper server for up to 50 pcs to have good internet. How i will make accounts that record hours and usage and cut people off after a certain point is harder for me. As well as figuring out a maintence schedule and what updates to run to insure that my pc isnt getting jammed up. The learning curve from hardware to soft ware is my problem, hardware is easy enough its just software and customability is getting me

J.Dre
04-12-2015, 11:47 PM
The new "high end" 300 series AMD cards are going to be launched around Computex (June 2015). Might interest some of you.

Looks like the 980Ti was delayed until after June. But it will likely perform the same as the Titan X (with less VRAM) and cost less.

Adky
04-13-2015, 12:32 AM
nichjeremy first of all, you need more money.
50 computers is too much, consoles are unnecessary, the parts you mentioned are overkill, you're cheaping out on keyboards, mice and headsets, you shouldn't.
You forgot mouse mats, monitors, ethernet cables, ethernet switches, power strips, desks, chairs, games and windows copies.


Cheaping out on the keyboard is fine, I doubt nkey rollover will matter. You'll want a pretty compact one though so you'll leave them with a lot of mouse space.
Cheaping out on the mouse is not fine, first you need a ambidextrous mouse, second you need a good sensor. Zowie FK1 is pretty awesome.
Headset, not fine. You want a decent mic, sound and good comfort. Your best bet is probably Siberia V2, better hurry though.
For mouse mats, just pick whatever you want, I suggest cloth.
24 inch monitor 1080p TN panel 1-2ms should be fine.

As for the rest, it all depends on the place you'll rent. For chairs, I suggest malkolm.


Head over to /r/buildapc when it's time and you've figured everything out, meaning how much you can spend per computer.
J.Dre is a moron, he has no idea what he's talking about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc


Here is the software you need
http://www.smartlaunch.com/


Good luck.

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 12:58 AM
Head over to /r/buildapc when it's time and you've figured everything out, meaning how much you can spend per computer.
J.Dre is a moron, he has no idea what he's talking about.
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc


Here is the software you need
http://www.smartlaunch.com/


Good luck.

Wait, you're still here? I'm surprised you're still posting in this thread if it's so "fucking retarded," as you said earlier. :rolleyes:

Adky
04-13-2015, 01:43 AM
Wait, you're still here? I'm surprised you're still posting in this thread if it's so "fucking retarded," as you said earlier. :rolleyes:

I tried to stay away. Don't suggest X99 boards, ever, thank you.

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 01:51 AM
I tried to stay away. Don't suggest X99 boards, ever, thank you.

You can go back to Reddit anytime now. You're still not helping anyone here.

Adky
04-13-2015, 01:55 AM
You can go back to Reddit anytime now. You're still not helping anyone here.

I am just here to prevent damage

Hammertime
04-13-2015, 08:46 AM
I have about $900 usd to spend.
I'll be using it for gaming.
Any suggestions?

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 10:56 AM
I have about $900 usd to spend.
I'll be using it for gaming.
Any suggestions?

Fairly busy today but you can take a look at some of the previous pages. I made some builds around $1k. In a couple of hours I'll be at a computer.


Hammertime: Here you go. This is a good place to start.


Computer Case: Rosewill Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case [+$60] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Gaming-Tower-Computer-CHALLENGER-U3/dp/B005HJMQIS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1428939057&sr=8-3&keywords=computer+case+mid+tower))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K (6MB Cache, up to 4.0 GHz) [+$233] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428938994&sr=8-1&keywords=4690k))
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler [+$35] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939100&sr=1-1&keywords=cpu+cooler))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB GDDR5 [+$205] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-128bit-Graphics-04G-P4-3968-KR/dp/B00UOYQ9N4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939155&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+960+ftw))
Motherboard: ASUS Micro ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$125] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Micro-DDR3-Motherboards-Z97M-PLUS/dp/B00K2R6EGA/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1428938839&sr=8-16&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard+z97))
PSU: Corsair CX Series 600 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze [+$75] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V-EPS12V/dp/B00ALYOPSS/ref=sr_1_17?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939251&sr=1-17&keywords=550w+power+supply))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1600 MHz [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Channel-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939314&sr=1-8&keywords=8gb+ram))
Hard Drive (Storage): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559387&sr=1-5&keywords=1tb+hard+drive))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$99] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939358&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+850+evo))

Sub-total: $873 (without the SSD).
Taxes: Unknown

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. If you can squeeze more out of your budget (about $250 more), I recommend checking out this graphics card (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-256bit-Graphics-04G-P4-2978-KR/dp/B00OSS0AG4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428939897&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+970+ftw+edition) and grabbing the Samsung 850 EVO. The 970 will offer a substantial increase in performance over the 960. It honestly offers you better performance per dollar.

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 03:24 PM
Yeah of course i wouldnt be buying any hardware now im just taking a step to get a basic idea of what type of hardware will run a video shop fine. Thats the easy part. The harder part is shop utilization. Desks chairs. Running a proper server for up to 50 pcs to have good internet. How i will make accounts that record hours and usage and cut people off after a certain point is harder for me. As well as figuring out a maintence schedule and what updates to run to insure that my pc isnt getting jammed up. The learning curve from hardware to soft ware is my problem, hardware is easy enough its just software and customability is getting me

You should start smaller, as I suggested before (quoted below). You will be looking at about $750-$1000 per unit, depending on the level of performance you really want to offer. You definitely want to consider what the competition is offering, too. Consider what they're doing right, what they're doing wrong, and what they could or should be doing. There are many more things to consider than just the hardware. I hinted to some of them before (quoted below). I suggest you take a step back and consider all other costs before jumping into hardware.


In all honesty, now is not a good time to be purchasing hardware, especially considering you're doing so for a long-term investment. By the time you open, the hardware you would have purchased for your grand opening would be obsolete. NVIDIA Pascal (Q4 2015/Q1 2016) is reported to more than double the performance of NVIDIA Maxwell. You should consider pushing back the plans until June of 2016 and hold off on purchasing any capital. In doing so, you will literally have the most advanced and high-tech cyber cafe in your entire city because you would have anticipated such changes in technology, thus having the best hardware available. What am I implying? You will spend $50k~ on hardware either way, however, waiting until next year will give you twice the effective usefulness and lifespan than that of current generation hardware. This means you're litterally getting more "bang for your buck."

Anyway, here are some recommendations:


You want to purchase an NVIDIA GPU. AMD GPU's may be cheaper, but they're hotter, have worse driver support, and AMD products are not known for their longevity. An NVIDIA GPU will save you time and money, long-term, considering you most likely won't be upgrading hardware every year.
You need to purchase a GPU with more than 2GB's of VRAM. Again, a cyber cafe is a long-term investment. Next generation games are starting to have recommendations of 4GB or more, and are utilizing more than 2GB's today. Don't skimp out on hardware to save a few dollars here and there. It will come back around and bite you right in the ass.
A quad-core CPU (e.g. 4690k) is a definite plus. It has been shown that next generation games are demanding more from processors. You don't want to have an entire cyber cafe full of computers unable to handle new games.
Memory is important. 8GB's is more than enough for a gaming machine, and I think this amount is ideal. What frequency should you purchase? At least 1600MHz. In the USA, 2400MHz memory is only $20 more than 1600MHz. So, I'd recommend that if you can find a good deal.
A Z97 motherboard is also a good idea. It is more "future" proof than most others. Definitely recommend going with something modern.

NVIDIA's next generation Pascal GPU Architecture - NVIDIA Blogs (http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/03/17/pascal/)

Adky
04-13-2015, 06:04 PM
Fairly busy today but you can take a look at some of the previous pages. I made some builds around $1k. In a couple of hours I'll be at a computer.


Hammertime: Here you go. This is a good place to start.


Computer Case: Rosewill Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case [+$60] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Gaming-Tower-Computer-CHALLENGER-U3/dp/B005HJMQIS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1428939057&sr=8-3&keywords=computer+case+mid+tower))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K (6MB Cache, up to 4.0 GHz) [+$233] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428938994&sr=8-1&keywords=4690k))
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler [+$35] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939100&sr=1-1&keywords=cpu+cooler))
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ 2GB GDDR5 [+$205] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-128bit-Graphics-04G-P4-3968-KR/dp/B00UOYQ9N4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939155&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+960+ftw))
Motherboard: ASUS Micro ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$125] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Micro-DDR3-Motherboards-Z97M-PLUS/dp/B00K2R6EGA/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1428938839&sr=8-16&keywords=lga+1150+motherboard+z97))
PSU: Corsair CX Series 600 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Bronze [+$75] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V-EPS12V/dp/B00ALYOPSS/ref=sr_1_17?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939251&sr=1-17&keywords=550w+power+supply))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1600 MHz [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Channel-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939314&sr=1-8&keywords=8gb+ram))
Hard Drive (Storage): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559387&sr=1-5&keywords=1tb+hard+drive))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$99] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1428939358&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+850+evo))

Sub-total: $873 (without the SSD).
Taxes: Unknown

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. If you can squeeze more out of your budget (about $250 more), I recommend checking out this graphics card (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-256bit-Graphics-04G-P4-2978-KR/dp/B00OSS0AG4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428939897&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+970+ftw+edition) and grabbing the Samsung 850 EVO. The 970 will offer a substantial increase in performance over the 960. It honestly offers you better performance per dollar.


The case you suggested is awful and expensive for what it offers. I suggest NZXT S340 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146197&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) or CM Silencio 352 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OWAZUB8/?tag=pcpapi-20), both good cases, I own the S340 myself actually.
As for the motherboard, you paired a matx with a mid tower. I suggest the Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 3 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K2RQDXY/?tag=pcpapi-20).
As for the graphics card, I suggest picking up a 280x (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202137&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) instead.
Screw the semi-modular PSU, get the non-modular 500W (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Watt-EPS%C2%A0-CX500/dp/B0092ML0MY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428947442&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+cx500) one for 60$ instead.
As for the memory, there's cheaper and better (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) options.


Also, if you don't want to spend more than 900$, there's ways to cut corners so you can afford a 970 or a 290x.

AMD FX-8350 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009O7YUF6/?tag=pcpapi-20), Asrock 970 Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157394&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=12087162&PID=3899435&SID=skim1402X558040X8ccd180284196c3b58ee62443a3e9c bb&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Skimlinks)


I think this should be enough to afford a 970 or a 290x, if not, pick a cheaper case and you should be good to go. You should probably get the 600W PSU (non-modular though) if you choose the AMD parts.


Other than that, J.Dre pretty decent build

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 07:01 PM
I will never recommend inferior products. You're free to use inferior products to save money. But, you get what you pay for. I always try to choose the best balance between cost and quality. Adky puts cost before all else, which is stupid.

The blind leading the stupid = the " Adky" method.

Adky
04-13-2015, 07:20 PM
I will never recommend inferior products. You're free to use inferior products to save money. But, you get what you pay for. I always try to choose the best balance between cost and quality. Adky puts cost before all else, which is stupid.

The blind leading the stupid = the " Adky" method.

Can you please, for once, explain yourself? What is inferior, what is wrong?
You suggested one of the shittiest cases I've seen.
As for the motherboard, first, you suggested a mATX board, I don't know why. Second, Gigabyte G3 is pretty cheap at the moment and superior to the one you mentioned.
PSU, it's the same thing, just not semi-modular, no biggie.
G.Skill offers superior memory at the better price.


I really don't understand what you're trying to say, if you're talking about the AMD parts, they're good, just stay away from the reference gpu coolers.
I get that you're a Intel and Nvidia fan boy, as am I, but come on, we're talking facts here, not opinion.

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 07:43 PM
Can you please, for once, explain yourself? What is inferior, what is wrong?
You suggested one of the shittiest cases I've seen.
As for the motherboard, first, you suggested a mATX board, I don't know why. Second, Gigabyte G3 is pretty cheap at the moment and superior to the one you mentioned.
PSU, it's the same thing, just not semi-modular, no biggie.
G.Skill offers superior memory at the better price.


I really don't understand what you're trying to say, if you're talking about the AMD parts, they're good, just stay away from the reference gpu coolers.
I get that you're a Intel and Nvidia fan boy, as am I, but come on, we're talking facts here, not opinion.

This thread isn't about you. Please stop targeting my posts and leave me alone. I'm tired of your childish behavior. All you do is complain and criticize my recommendations, then make ridiculous recommendations of your own based on nothing but costs associated with the build. You should not be prioritizing cost over quality, performance, reputation, or driver support when recommending parts to clients or customers. It's simply illogical.

The fact that you are unable to deduce my implication when labeling your recommendations as "inferior" proves you are not suited for making such recommendations to people, when there are thousands of dollars at stake here. This is just another case of you thinking you know everything when you actually don't, and it's becoming quite annoying.

nichjeremy
04-13-2015, 07:44 PM
i checked the other Competition Cyber pc store. its on the other side of the island. and its so messy there. they have a huge clientele but it looks like a teenagers bedroom. they dont have anything but regular mouse and regular headsets. and they just have everyone bring their own if they want better. the mouse headset and keyboard i use is a basic setup that should be fine its alot better than what their using so im only going to focus on the Pcs/games/Chairs/ and of course the mats, monitors, ethernet cables, ethernet switches, power strips, desks, chairs, games and windows copies. my partner is doing all those parts
i just want to make sure i got the main things right like the expensive hardware. and the video games. im pretty out of the loop

nichjeremy
04-13-2015, 07:50 PM
im using the rosewill gaming case and it works fine. i run my pc at like -40C with the fans on 50% - 75%

nichjeremy
04-13-2015, 07:53 PM
thankyou ill definetly be going with nvidia. i looked at the other store and they have about the same build im using in my computer. i have a way bigger area for people to come and play. i have 2 colleges with over 20,000 students and also a highschool and a middle school all within 1 mile. walking or bicycle distance. for the colleges they can walk or drive. the ideas i have are great and i think it will attract all the gamers on this side of the island. im actaully starting WOW accouints and League of legends just so i can learn what kids like now adays. again im old school i still play tibia lol...

Adky
04-13-2015, 07:58 PM
This thread isn't about you. Please stop targeting my posts and leave me alone. I'm tired of your childish behavior. All you do is complain and criticize my recommendations, then make ridiculous recommendations of your own based on nothing but costs associated with the build. You should not be prioritizing cost over quality, performance, reputation, or driver support when recommending parts to clients or customers. It's simply illogical.

The fact that you are unable to deduce my implication when labeling your recommendations as "inferior" proves you are not suited for making such recommendations to people, when there are thousands of dollars at stake here. This is just another case of you thinking you know everything when you actually don't, and it's becoming quite annoying.



You're right, I take back what I said, your build (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=422012&viewfull=1#post422012) is better.
I was unaware G.Skill, Gigabyte, NZXT and CoolerMaster has slow, low quality products and bad reputation.
As for AMD drivers, I'm pretty sure they've stepped up their game.
I'm sorry, Hammertime


J.Dre I'll leave this thread in your hands, frankly I'm tired of your attitude. You are an arrogant asshat. Aydin, Double standards time, I'm ready.

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 08:00 PM
thankyou ill definetly be going with nvidia. i looked at the other store and they have about the same build im using in my computer. i have a way bigger area for people to come and play. i have 2 colleges with over 20,000 students and also a highschool and a middle school all within 1 mile. walking or bicycle distance. for the colleges they can walk or drive. the ideas i have are great and i think it will attract all the gamers on this side of the island. im actaully starting WOW accouints and League of legends just so i can learn what kids like now adays. again im old school i still play tibia lol...

I think it will be fine. Just take your time planning the entire thing and don't rush anything. We don't have an internet cafe (geared toward gaming) in my town and I've actually thought about starting one myself (or partnering with someone and doing so). It can be a very lucrative business as it has mostly fixed costs and great potential to grow.

Hammertime
04-13-2015, 08:02 PM
It's no problem, I was just looking for some suggestions. Thanks guys.

Adky
04-13-2015, 08:08 PM
im using the rosewill gaming case and it works fine. i run my pc at like -40C with the fans on 50% - 75%

Sure it works fine, it's a very old product though, from 2011 actually. There is way better options now.

shadowart
04-13-2015, 08:15 PM
You're right, I take back what I said, your build (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=422012&viewfull=1#post422012) is better.
I was unaware G.Skill, Gigabyte, NZXT and CoolerMaster has slow, low quality products and bad reputation.
As for AMD drivers, I'm pretty sure they've stepped up their game.
I'm sorry, Hammertime


J.Dre I'll leave this thread in your hands, frankly I'm tired of your attitude. You are an arrogant asshat. Aydin, Double standards time, I'm ready.
Normally I just leave the retards alone but I'm going to come out and say that I agree with you here. J.Dre is a huge douchebag and spews bullshit in pretty much every thread I see him post in.

As for anyone who actually wants help choosing components, you'd get better help in a forum actually dedicated to such things.

J.Dre
04-13-2015, 08:51 PM
Sometimes I forget this forum is comprised mainly of little kids... You are both being quite offensive. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. You should start following that. This thread isn't about you or any issue you have with me.

Grow up, get over it, and move on.

Luls
04-13-2015, 09:04 PM
Ya'll need to lay the fuck off. Dre is just trying to help people who have less knowledge about building a PC. Is everything he suggests the most optimal? Probably not, but no one is 100% right about everything.

I don't give a fuck who started what, but it's stopping now. If you're not going to help someone who's looking for help in this thread, piss off.

Aydin
04-13-2015, 09:19 PM
Adky - There you go, your second infraction you asked about. Go, start insulting more so I can hit you with my banhammer.

Now stfu everyone and listen tot luls

J.Dre
04-14-2015, 08:14 PM
Thank you, Aydin and Luls.


It's no problem, I was just looking for some suggestions. Thanks guys.

All of the recommendations I make are merely places to start, as I mention in pretty much every closing note.

Hopefully it will at least give you an idea of what to look for. There are many alternatives available. If you decide you need further advice, let me know. Previously, a member made the mistake of changing some of the components without first asking me and ended up seeing crippled performance due to the fact that it wasn't able to support his monitor's resolution.

Just keep that in mind. Not sure how "tech-savvy" you are, but I've seen people make this mistake far too often.

Hammertime
04-14-2015, 08:31 PM
J.Dre

I'm really not at all, so I'll keep all your recommendations in mind. Thanks again.

walker4
04-30-2015, 08:15 AM
If for gaming, this is the build guide in budget http://pc4u.org/best-gaming-pc-build-under-500-dollars/

Diamond.
04-30-2015, 04:48 PM
J.Dre , not sure if this has been asked but difference between windows 7 and 8? Any pros and cons you know of between the 2?

J.Dre
04-30-2015, 05:38 PM
J.Dre , not sure if this has been asked but difference between windows 7 and 8? Any pros and cons you know of between the 2?

For gaming, the greatest benefit is DirectX support. You should be waiting for Windows 10. It will be much better than 8/8.1.

Diamond.
04-30-2015, 06:25 PM
For gaming, the greatest benefit is DirectX support. You should be waiting for Windows 10. It will be much better than 8/8.1.

Yeah, was definitely gonna upgrade to 10 once it's comes out.

J.Dre
05-03-2015, 08:43 PM
Just so everyone knows, if you don't already: Anyone with Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 will be able to upgrade to Windows 10 for free during the first year of its release. But after 12 months, you'll likely have to pay like $49.99 or something to upgrade to it (permanently).

kolibal
05-05-2015, 06:40 PM
J.Dre
after long considerations , I came to the conclusion but would appreciate feedback as well .
Intel Core I5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor ( Gonna Overclock to 4.2 GHZ)
MSI N760 TF 2GD5/OC GTX 760 Twin Frozr Gaming 2GB GDDR5
Mobo 1 : Asus Z97-A Socket 1150 Motherboard
Or Mobo 2 : Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 2 Socket 1150 Motherboard
dunno the difference between the 2 :D
Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 X 4GB) DDR3 1600 CL9 V1.5 Dual Channel Memory Kit
Corsair VS Series VS650M 650w PSU

I am not sure about the power supply , case or Ram to be honest . Anything is appreciated

evolutionruler1
05-06-2015, 11:45 AM
Hey J.Dre

here are my datas, and i want to know if it is a quite okei computer or if there have to be changed alot.
http://i57.tinypic.com/212fy2d.png

My Win is Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
Thanks =)

Ps: one more post will follow with another computer :P

evolutionruler1
05-06-2015, 01:44 PM
AS i said i´ve got one more. This is the Comp of a friend of me. Whats the cheapest and best way to update this one? all can be replaced but as i said it should be cheap :)

http://i59.tinypic.com/312ixht.png

greetings

J.Dre
05-06-2015, 03:18 PM
I'll try to help you guys out later today, but most likely won't be able to until tomorrow. Taking final exams now in school.

Adky
05-06-2015, 08:42 PM
J.Dre
after long considerations , I came to the conclusion but would appreciate feedback as well .
Intel Core I5-4690K Devil's Canyon Quad-Core 3.5GHz LGA 1150 Desktop Processor ( Gonna Overclock to 4.2 GHZ)
MSI N760 TF 2GD5/OC GTX 760 Twin Frozr Gaming 2GB GDDR5
Mobo 1 : Asus Z97-A Socket 1150 Motherboard
Or Mobo 2 : Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 2 Socket 1150 Motherboard
dunno the difference between the 2 :D
Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-02
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 X 4GB) DDR3 1600 CL9 V1.5 Dual Channel Memory Kit
Corsair VS Series VS650M 650w PSU

I am not sure about the power supply , case or Ram to be honest . Anything is appreciated

http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=422116&viewfull=1#post422116

If you money to spend, stick to the i5 and get a decent PSU too. Change the 760 for a 290x or a 970

xux
05-06-2015, 10:17 PM
AS i said i´ve got one more. This is the Comp of a friend of me. Whats the cheapest and best way to update this one? all can be replaced but as i said it should be cheap :)

http://i59.tinypic.com/312ixht.png

greetings

Haha where did you found this old guy. :p
Just get a new one for this.

kolibal
05-07-2015, 03:48 AM
http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=422116&viewfull=1#post422116

If you money to spend, stick to the i5 and get a decent PSU too. Change the 760 for a 290x or a 970
I am actually really tight on money.
what do you think about case and why PSU is bad ?

evolutionruler1
05-07-2015, 06:50 AM
It´s my girlfriend ones haha :D but xux she wants to build an own one or upgrade the old case :P she likes to build new things. Can you tell me a cheap created computer then which has quite oke power ? and what about my first pic?

kolibal
05-07-2015, 08:43 AM
I'll try to help you guys out later today, but most likely won't be able to until tomorrow. Taking final exams now in school.

Good luck In finals
thumbs up

xux
05-07-2015, 10:43 AM
It´s my girlfriend ones haha :D but @xux (http://forums.xenobot.net/member.php?u=17621) she wants to build an own one or upgrade the old case :P she likes to build new things. Can you tell me a cheap created computer then which has quite oke power ? and what about my first pic?

Hmm well that depends on what you wanna do with it. The first one is oké, a bit outdated but nothing really terrible.
About the one for your GF well again depends on what you wanna do with it and what your budget is.

Tho what you might do is give your old pc to your gf and build a better one yourself :p
but then again i dont know what you/she want to do with it.

evolutionruler1
05-07-2015, 11:30 AM
Hmm well that depends on what you wanna do with it. The first one is oké, a bit outdated but nothing really terrible.
About the one for your GF well again depends on what you wanna do with it and what your budget is.

Tho what you might do is give your old pc to your gf and build a better one yourself :p
but then again i dont know what you/she want to do with it.

Okei thanks for the tipps :P i guess the budget is 150 €. is it possible in that budget to build a pc? she wants to play sims on it and do shool work lol it should run quite fast and fluently.

xux
05-07-2015, 01:39 PM
Okei thanks for the tipps :P i guess the budget is 150 €. is it possible in that budget to build a pc? she wants to play sims on it and do shool work lol it should run quite fast and fluently.
Possible but don't expect something good at all.
Better search for a second hand then.

Adky
05-07-2015, 05:34 PM
I am actually really tight on money.
what do you think about case and why PSU is bad ?


It depends on your budget really. Pairing a 760 with a i5 4670k/4690k is pretty stupid. A friend made me and a few other friends do this 2-3ish years ago when we know nothing of computers. He really screwed us over, he got everything wrong.

Anyway, the 760 & the corsair VS series are outdated and no longer sold I believe. Where did you find a 760 for sale? The PSU is fine, it's good enough. Case is fine too.

What's your budget? 800-900$? What about a hdd and ssd?


First, pick a graphics card, a 290x or a 970 and build a system around that.

kolibal
05-07-2015, 07:11 PM
It depends on your budget really. Pairing a 760 with a i5 4670k/4690k is pretty stupid. A friend made me and a few other friends do this 2-3ish years ago when we know nothing of computers. He really screwed us over, he got everything wrong.

Anyway, the 760 & the corsair VS series are outdated and no longer sold I believe. Where did you find a 760 for sale? The PSU is fine, it's good enough. Case is fine too.

What's your budget? 800-900$? What about a hdd and ssd?


First, pick a graphics card, a 290x or a 970 and build a system around that.

hdd probably gonna be a 1 TB western digital of some sorts and no ssd ( unless you know a cheap one ) but I can't figure out how it performs or how it changes my pc .
Budget is about 800 $
and Im gonna play some CPU-intensive games such as CS;GO or Guild wars 2 so an overclocked processor of 4.2GHz is a must and I just wanted to get whatever graphics card but anyway that road seemed blocked . I dont have many options maybe the 280x and that would kill my budget anyway .
Whatcha think

Adky
05-07-2015, 09:31 PM
hdd probably gonna be a 1 TB western digital of some sorts and no ssd ( unless you know a cheap one ) but I can't figure out how it performs or how it changes my pc .
Budget is about 800 $
and Im gonna play some CPU-intensive games such as CS;GO or Guild wars 2 so an overclocked processor of 4.2GHz is a must and I just wanted to get whatever graphics card but anyway that road seemed blocked . I dont have many options maybe the 280x and that would kill my budget anyway .
Whatcha think


I gave my 760 i told you about to my brother, he paired it with a pentium g3258 and he sits at 120-150 fps on CS:GO.
I'm not saying you should get a pentium, you shouldn't, but I don't think you need the 4690k but if you get it, you dont need the hyper 212 evo.
As for motherboards, you can get like a 50$ one.

You can get a 290x for 300$ and the i5 for 215$.

60$ ram g.skill dd3 4x2 2133mhz, 50$~ psu corsair cx600, 50$ hdd seagate 1tb, 50$ case, 75$ motherboard. More or less 800$. For a case, I suggest looking at Fractal, NZXT and possibly Corsair. As for motherboard, idk. If you can squeeze out a little more money, buy the hyper 212 evo.

kolibal
05-07-2015, 09:53 PM
I gave my 760 i told you about to my brother, he paired it with a pentium g3258 and he sits at 120-150 fps on CS:GO.
I'm not saying you should get a pentium, you shouldn't, but I don't think you need the 4690k but if you get it, you dont need the hyper 212 evo.
As for motherboards, you can get like a 50$ one.

You can get a 290x for 300$ and the i5 for 215$.

60$ ram g.skill dd3 4x2 2133mhz, 50$~ psu corsair cx600, 50$ hdd seagate 1tb, 50$ case, 75$ motherboard. More or less 800$. For a case, I suggest looking at Fractal, NZXT and possibly Corsair. As for motherboard, idk. If you can squeeze out a little more money, buy the hyper 212 evo.

I was looking to get 4460 i5 but in the near future the i5 as a total will be outdated so getting a K processor is a wise investment and the 4670k is the i5 top notch so if I am gonna buy anything I am gonna get it , It servers the purpose for years to come . I am gonna try and get the gtx 970 and try and squeeze a little more money for the other stuff . God help me Im going broke :D

J.Dre
05-07-2015, 11:13 PM
kolibal,

I would recommend you wait until the end of the summer before purchasing anything unless you absolutely need something now.

http://wccftech.com/asrock-unveils-lga-1151-socketed-motherboard-featuring-support-6th-generation-skylake-processors/

Skylake is set to debut. A new socket type (LGA 1151) is replacing LGA 1150, which is what you'd be buying now.

kolibal
05-08-2015, 06:16 AM
kolibal,

I would recommend you wait until the end of the summer before purchasing anything unless you absolutely need something now.

http://wccftech.com/asrock-unveils-lga-1151-socketed-motherboard-featuring-support-6th-generation-skylake-processors/

Skylake is set to debut. A new socket type (LGA 1151) is replacing LGA 1150, which is what you'd be buying now.
I am aware of that but you gotta understand that Anything new will be way overpriced here in Egypt so it's not an option really as my budget will be well on it's way sky high so I gotta consider other options . What do you think about a suitable build with 4690k for the above reasons i mentioned.
and how did you do in exams ? :D

J.Dre
05-09-2015, 08:00 PM
I am aware of that but you gotta understand that Anything new will be way overpriced here in Egypt so it's not an option really as my budget will be well on it's way sky high so I gotta consider other options . What do you think about a suitable build with 4690k for the above reasons i mentioned.
and how did you do in exams ? :D

I won't know how finals actually went until Monday or Tuesday, but I expect fairly well. Thank you for asking. :) And yes, you're in Egypt - prices will be high and it will probably be a while before you even have access to such new stuff.

Anyway, your build is adequate but I put together a build for approximately what want to spend around: $800? I'll try to put together a good system for around that price.


Computer Case: Sentey® Gaming Case Optimus Gs-6000 Plus [+$60] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PJ63Y6W?psc=1))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K (6MB Cache, up to 4.0 GHz) [+$215] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201007&sr=1-6&keywords=lga+1150+cpu))
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO [+$35] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_sim_147_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WCP8H5G3QA06GR44NFP))
GPU: ASUS Graphics Cards STRIX-GTX 960 with 2GB GDDR5 [+$200] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Asus-STRIX-GTX960-DC2OC-2GD5-ASUS-Graphics-Cards/dp/B00S9SGMZM/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201132&sr=1-9&keywords=gtx+960+4gb))
Motherboard: ASUS ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$165] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Motherboards-SABERTOOTH-Z97-MARK2/dp/B00K2R6E10/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1431200583&sr=8-3&keywords=asus+sabertooth+z97))
PSU: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Certified [+$40] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201206&sr=1-5&keywords=600w+power+supply))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz [+$62] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10/dp/B005T63BJM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201264&sr=1-3&keywords=8gb+ddr3+ram))
Hard Drive: WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop HDD [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559387&sr=1-5&keywords=1tb+hard+drive))

Sub-total: $847 (with SSD).
Taxes: Unknown

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. The motherboard I chose has great reviews, offers great reliability, and has an outstanding 5-year replacement warranty. The CPU cooler is something you'll definitely want. The GTX 960 is way better than the 760, and totally worth the extra cost.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXgWhFB9fVk

kolibal
05-10-2015, 07:39 PM
I won't know how finals actually went until Monday or Tuesday, but I expect fairly well. Thank you for asking. :) And yes, you're in Egypt - prices will be high and it will probably be a while before you even have access to such new stuff.

Anyway, your build is adequate but I put together a build for approximately what want to spend around: $800? I'll try to put together a good system for around that price.


Computer Case: Sentey® Gaming Case Optimus Gs-6000 Plus [+$60] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PJ63Y6W?psc=1))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K (6MB Cache, up to 4.0 GHz) [+$215] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201007&sr=1-6&keywords=lga+1150+cpu))
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO [+$35] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_sim_147_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1WCP8H5G3QA06GR44NFP))
GPU: ASUS Graphics Cards STRIX-GTX 960 with 2GB GDDR5 [+$200] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Asus-STRIX-GTX960-DC2OC-2GD5-ASUS-Graphics-Cards/dp/B00S9SGMZM/ref=sr_1_9?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201132&sr=1-9&keywords=gtx+960+4gb))
Motherboard: ASUS ATX DDR3 2600 LGA 1150 [+$165] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Motherboards-SABERTOOTH-Z97-MARK2/dp/B00K2R6E10/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1431200583&sr=8-3&keywords=asus+sabertooth+z97))
PSU: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Certified [+$40] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-80PLUS-Certified-ATX12V-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201206&sr=1-5&keywords=600w+power+supply))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz [+$62] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Desktop-Memory-CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10/dp/B005T63BJM/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1431201264&sr=1-3&keywords=8gb+ddr3+ram))
Hard Drive: WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop HDD [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1427559387&sr=1-5&keywords=1tb+hard+drive))

Sub-total: $847 (with SSD).
Taxes: Unknown

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. The motherboard I chose has great reviews, offers great reliability, and has an outstanding 5-year replacement warranty. The CPU cooler is something you'll definitely want. The GTX 960 is way better than the 760, and totally worth the extra cost.



I appreciate the reply but some of the Hardware you posted isn't in Egypt such as The MOBO and some parts are way overpriced when multiplied with usd factor here so it's just not within my price range .
think I'm heading in a direction of i5 4460 + gtx 960 and cut back on some other things

J.Dre
05-10-2015, 07:45 PM
I appreciate the reply but some of the Hardware you posted isn't in Egypt such as The MOBO and some parts are way overpriced when multiplied with usd factor here so it's just not within my price range .
think I'm heading in a direction of i5 4460 + gtx 960 and cut back on some other things

That's almost always a problem - the price difference. You should get a quad-core CPU for sure, and go for a good motherboard.

Having too weak of a CPU is pointless with such a GPU. You'll experience throttling.

Adky
05-12-2015, 04:58 PM
That's almost always a problem - the price difference. You should get a quad-core CPU for sure, and go for a good motherboard.

Having too weak of a CPU is pointless with such a GPU. You'll experience throttling.

The i5 4460 is a 4 core CPU and it isn't weak, it's a good choice. Replace the 960 with a 280x instead for more performance. kolibal

J.Dre
06-02-2015, 03:38 PM
If anyone else would like some advice, feel free to ask.

The new GTX 980Ti has finally launched. And as predicted, it is a re-branded Titan X with a much better price tag & less VRAM.

Ckicrezid
06-02-2015, 09:42 PM
Really thinking about buying a new desktop this autumn, wonder how long we have to wait til AMD drops the 300 series.

I will probably buy the 290x for a reduced price, seems to be performing similiar to a gtx970 in the benchmarks..

Diamond.
06-04-2015, 12:14 AM
J.Dre , running on an old wins 7 laptop, got a notification from Microsoft offering free upgrade to wins 10. Do you know if this is actually going to be a FULL free version? Had a few friends receive the same notification too.

J.Dre
06-04-2015, 01:01 AM
J.Dre , running on an old wins 7 laptop, got a notification from Microsoft offering free upgrade to wins 10. Do you know if this is actually going to be a FULL free version? Had a few friends receive the same notification too.

Yes, it's the full version - free upgrade for one year (12 months). After that, you have to pay to upgrade. Not sure how much.

Windows 10 is the last Windows OS for a while... Microsoft has decided to release updates for Windows 10, like expansions for games.

J.Dre
06-19-2015, 05:40 PM
http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/RadeonFury1-640x359.png

The R9 Fury X comes out on top in every single one of the following benchmarks. However, in a number of games, the result is much closer to a tie. And based on what we know of the 980Ti’s and Titan X’s performance, substituting the 980Ti with a Titan X will not do much to close the gap. Granted the Titan X will edge out Fury X in a handful of the tested games, but that’s not going to be enough to change the outcome.Fury X would still end up with more wins than losses.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2pzxim8.jpg

Price starts at a competitively set $649 with the 980Ti.

You may also want to checkout their other Radeon R9 series products, like the R9 NANO, which performs better than the R290x.

Ckicrezid
06-19-2015, 06:09 PM
The only sad thing about AMD´s new top notch series is that it only surpasses nvidia cards in 4k. Other benchmarks for "normal" gaming are not as much in AMD´s favor..

J.Dre
06-19-2015, 06:25 PM
The only sad thing about AMD´s new top notch series is that it only surpasses nvidia cards in 4k. Other benchmarks for "normal" gaming are not as much in AMD´s favor..

At least they're back in the game. That's what I'm happy about. Competition breeds success.

Ckicrezid
06-19-2015, 11:46 PM
At least they're back in the game. That's what I'm happy about. Competition breeds success.

Yeah I could not agree more there.. Hopefully it´ll lower nvidias prices big time.

pinky339
06-24-2015, 02:54 AM
Budget: 500-600€
I want a gaming PC with high performance as possible with that money
( Not included for mouse/keyboard/Screen)

Guardian
06-24-2015, 07:42 AM
Reasonable high performance will be around 800-1000 euros at least. Processor (100-200 euros (i5 series)) - Ssd (250gb 90-130€ - 500gb 170-200€) <-- would recommend it, but it is not a 'need' - HDD 3TB (120€) - At least a videocard of 2GB (120-200 euros) <-> 4gb (200-400 euros) -RAM(8gb ~ 40-60€ --- 16GB ~ 100-150€) - Motherboard (90-150€) - Power supply at least 600W (20-120€) - Case (Mid tower (40-120€) Full tower (90-200€))

J.Dre
07-10-2015, 03:17 PM
Budget: 500-600€
I want a gaming PC with high performance as possible with that money
( Not included for mouse/keyboard/Screen)

Hey pinky339,

My apologies for not responding sooner. I did not even realize you posted in this thread. You should link my username next time (@J.Dre). ;)

With your budget, I would recommend the following specifications as a starting point to begin your build:


Computer Case: Sentey® Gaming Case Optimus Gs-6000R (Black and Red) [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Sentey%C2%AE-Gaming-Case-Optimus-Gs-6000r/dp/B00BW469KS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1436541053&sr=8-4&keywords=zalman+computer+case))
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K (6MB Cache, up to 4.0 GHz) [+$236] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX80646I54690K/dp/B00KPRWB9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436540086&sr=8-1&keywords=i5+4690k))
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler [+$32] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-20PK-R2/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1436540292&sr=1-1&keywords=cpu+cooler))
GPU: Gigabyte AMD R7 370 256 Bit GDDR5 2GB 2xDVI/HDMI/DP Overclocked Graphics [+$150] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GDDR5-Overclocked-Graphics-GV-R737WF2OC-2GD/dp/B00ZGF40QO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436540939&sr=8-1&keywords=amd+r7+370))
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK (Black Edition) Motherboard Core [+$135] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK-Motherboard-Integrated-Graphics/dp/B00K872IT6/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1436540086&sr=8-10&keywords=i5+4690k))
PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified 500W 3-Year Warranty Power Supply [+$45] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1436540317&sr=1-1&keywords=500w+power+supply))
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1600 MHz [+$48] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-240-Pin-Channel-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9/dp/B004CRSM4I/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1436540372&sr=1-2&keywords=corsair+1600mhz))
Hard Drive (Storage): Western Digital 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM [+$70] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Black-Performance-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B00FJRS6FU/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1436540418&sr=1-4&keywords=1tb+hdd))
Optional SSD (Primary): Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5" SATA III [+$98] (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1436540441&sr=1-2&keywords=256gb+ssd))

Sub-total: $786 (without the SSD).
Taxes: Unknown

Notes: I would recommend you start with these specifications and go from there. I chose these specifications because of their especially good price-to-performance ratio. However, the AMD GPU is not something I would necessarily recommend, but your budget is extremely limited. The new R370 is within 10% of the GTX 960 (performance-wise) and should offer you a fairly good experience. You may change the CPU for a lower quad-core variant to save some money. However, these specifications are a great combination.

If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to leave a message below. :)

J.Dre
09-05-2015, 01:03 PM
ASUS has launched a water-cooled laptop with desktop like graphics performance. Read more... (http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/2/9251275/asus-gx700-water-cooled-gaming-laptop-ifa-2015-video)

http://i57.tinypic.com/veb446.png

How does it work? In essence, the laptop contains a ridiculous mobile GPU (known as the "990M") which has similar specifications as the GTX 980. When this laptop is not connected to the cooler, it runs the card down-clocked to GTX 980M levels of performance. However, when you connect it to this external radiator dock, it then boosts performance by approximately 30%.

How much does this cost? Early estimations set it at a minimum of €3000 for the laptop alone. The entire setup will be around €4000.

Kaguya
10-04-2015, 10:10 AM
Hi. My budget is like 600€
Mainly I need a new Computer for opening like 8 tibia clients while playing other games like BF4 / World Of Warcraft on High Settings or just looking movies without lagging.
Also i need a quite one , cuz my computer is just infront of my bed. Im really confused about this CPU battle between Intel FanBoys and AMD FanBoys.
Well i personally think the AMD Octa Core would be better cuz tibia is eating a lot of Core and RAM. Could you guys help me ?


Computer Case: Sharkoon VG4-S Midi Tower [+€28,94] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Sharkoon-VG4-S-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz_977990.html))
CPU: Intel Core i5 4460 4x 3.20GHz [+€163.32] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Intel-Core-i5-4460-4x-3-20GHz-So-1150-BOX_960035.html))
GPU: 2048MB Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Toxic Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 (Full Retail) [+€169,95] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2048MB-Sapphire-Radeon-R9-270X-Toxic-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Full-Retail-_935701.html))
Motherboard: MSI Z97 GAMING 3 Intel Z97 So.1150 Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail [+€122,52] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-Z97-GAMING-3-Intel-Z97-So-1150-Dual-Channel-DDR3-ATX-Retail_961271.html))
PSU: 450 Watt be quiet! System Power 7 Bulk Non-Modular 80+ Silver [+€54,41] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/450-Watt-be-quiet--System-Power-7-Bulk-Non-Modular-80--Silver_822188.html))
RAM: 4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 SO-DIMM CL9 Single 2x [+€54,36] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4GB-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-DDR3-1600-SO-DIMM-CL9-Single_953606.html))

Sub-total: €593,50~




Computer Case: Sharkoon VG4-S Midi Tower [+€28,94] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Sharkoon-VG4-S-Midi-Tower-ohne-Netzteil-schwarz_977990.html))
CPU: MD FX Series FX-8350 8x 4.00GHz [+€157.70] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-FX-Series-FX-8350-8x-4-00GHz-So-AM3--BOX_818298.html))
GPU: 2048MB Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Toxic Aktiv PCIe 3.0 x16 (Full Retail) [+€169,95] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/2048MB-Sapphire-Radeon-R9-270X-Toxic-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Full-Retail-_935701.html))
Motherboard: MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition AMD 970 So.AM3+ Dual Channel DDR3 ATX Retail [+€93,36] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-970A-SLI-Krait-Edition-AMD-970-So-AM3--Dual-Channel-DDR3-ATX-Retail_1001410.html))
PSU: 500 Watt be quiet! Pure Power L8 Non-Modular 80+ Bronze [+€60,13] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/500-Watt-be-quiet--Pure-Power-L8-Non-Modular-80--Bronze_857817.html))
RAM: 4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 SO-DIMM CL9 Single 2x [+€54,36] (Mindfactory (http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4GB-Crucial-Ballistix-Sport-DDR3-1600-SO-DIMM-CL9-Single_953606.html))

Sub-total: €564,44~

J.Dre
10-04-2015, 02:55 PM
Kaguya,

You should take some components from this build suggestion (http://forums.xenobot.net/showthread.php?31390-Building-a-new-computer-Need-recommendations-or-advice-Ask-here&p=436328&viewfull=1#post436328). It is within your budget.

xux
10-04-2015, 03:36 PM
Also i need a quite one , cuz my computer is just infront of my bed.
IF you want it to be quiet throw away the stock cooler from AMD(not sure about the stock coolers from Intel tho), else you will hear it.

Kaguya
10-04-2015, 03:56 PM
IF you want it to be quiet throw away the stock cooler from AMD(not sure about the stock coolers from Intel tho), else you will hear it.

Well im guessing now .. you are an owner of an AMD right ? So what do you think about em ? Are they good fro multi tasking ?

xux
10-04-2015, 05:17 PM
Well im guessing now .. you are an owner of an AMD right ? So what do you think about em ? Are they good fro multi tasking ?
I used both but indeed i`m using AMD now. Also AMD is somewhat infamous for their stock fans.
I never really experienced any problems with multi tasking on the AMD yet. Quick side note i do not really play bf4(or something that much graphic consuming) and as well run 6+ clients. But for sure it should be doable.
Also i do have plugged in 16gb of RAM and just now by having only chrome, steam and skype open almost 4gb is gone. So i would recommend adding more then just 4gb is a must. (which is also favorable for the (on board) graphics).

Or this 2x means you get already 2x 4gb, then it might work out. Tho still for 6 clients and bf4 i wouldn't be surprised for getting performance issues.

Long story short. Yes they are good for multi tasking but its not only up to the processor.

J.Dre
10-13-2015, 01:08 AM
If anyone is interested, I have some cheap RAM for sale (16GB's). It's for a laptop: DDR3L.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-new-16gb-2x-8gb-sk-hynix-dell-oem-1600mhz-ddr3l-memory.782622/

Will only ship in the U.S., sorry. International shipping is expensive.

SOLD!

a321xxr
06-24-2016, 02:05 PM
i want to build a computer for my brother in the range of 650-750$
- asus Z97-a
- nvidia gtx 750 ti 4gb
- Intel i5-4690k
- corsair rm 750
- corsair carbide spec-03
- corsair vengeance 8 gb
- western digital 1tb @7200 rpm
what do you think